• LordSinguloth@lemmy.ca
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    5 months ago

    I’m pro nuke energy but to pretend there are no downsides is what got us into the climate mess we are in in the first place.

    Cost, being a major drawback, space being another. And of course while they almost never fail, they do occasionally, and will again. And those failures are utterly catastrophic, and it’d hard to convince a community to welcome a nuclear plant, and if the community doesn’t want it then it can’t or shouldn’t be forced onto them.

    They also represent tactical strike sites in time of combat engagement. Big red X for a missile.

    There are also significant environmental concerns, as we really have no good way to dispose of nuclear waste in a safe or efficient manner at this time.

    It’s likely that nuclear based energy is the future, but you need to discuss the bad with the good here or we are just going to end up at square one again. There are long term ramifications.

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      5 months ago

      Worth noting that all modern failures have been GE models or ancient Westinghouse models. Modern nuclear reactors built by Westinghouse are virtually immune from meltdown, and Westinghouse is the lead player in new builds. Nuclear safety has come miles since the like of Fukushima, and especially 3 Mile Island. I’d feel perfectly safe living near a new Westinghouse nuclear plant.

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      5 months ago

      I agree with everything you say. It really is spot on. What I don’t understand is how, with your awareness, do you still consider yourself pro-nuclear. Honest question, I really am curious.

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        5 months ago

        This is a shocker for many on social media but you can accept that something you want is not perfect but still want it, or see good in a bad person, but still not want them on the throne.

        Just because I can be realistic about it’s pros and cons instead of blindly parroting that I have been told to parrot doesn’t mean I can’t be pro nuclear.

        Other power sources have more problems. And I say just launch the waste into space and eventually the reactors will just be out of the stratosphere and it won’t matter if it explodes.

        But you got to walk before you can run.

        I just dislike when people pretend there are no downside to nuke, EV, wind, etc, because if they make one little comment on a con suddenly they’re some anti enviro Trump sucker and get dogpiled

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          5 months ago

          There’s a difference in something being not perfect and being fundamentally flawed. My confusion is because you perfectly verbalized why I think it’s flawed.

          I could understand being in favor of using nuclear temporarily until renewables are more reliable. I don’t agree but I understand the thought process. It’s a calculated risk, an acceptable gamble. But being aware of all the issues with nuclear and still be in favor of it long term, in my opinion, doesn’t make sense.

          Mind you, I’m not trying to attack you, I’m genuinely intrigued and curious.

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      5 months ago

      Nuke energy! Actually, don’t. We need it.

      They also represent tactical strike sites in time of combat engagement. Big red X for a missile.

      Practice shows that in land wars instead of big X it is just burden for both sides. I’m talking Putin-Ukraine war.

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        5 months ago

        That’s a single single war, and not indicative, power supply remains and always has been a high priority target.

        Just cause putin and Kiev avoid chernobyl isn’t really evidence to the contrary