How old is the kid? Have you just tried asking them why they are arguing or asking how they are feeling at that moment and then helping them to explore those feelings and why they are feeling them?

Maybe they see what you are saying is unfair, and if they do, maybe try to explain it from the point of view of an adult. Depending on the age, it could just be a super young kid doing what young kids do, i.e., pushing boundaries, or it could be any number of issues. I think teaching kids to be as emotionally aware as possible is a good thing, though.

Obedience is the main pillar upon which current society is built. Obedience to your government, to the law, your boss, your elders, your teachers, your parents. Every generation is trained to obey some form of authority. So why shouldn’t religion also get a piece of the pie?

Truth is, the deck is stacked against the individual. Whichever rights we have as individuals are those granted to us by a collective. And each different collective wants to impose their own authority over all others. So it isn’t weird organized religion asks for obedience, but it would definitely be out of place had it not.

It’s easy to get hung up on words, eh.

We do “submit”, daily, to a higher power or thing beyond our control.

It’s pouring with rain, I need to be three blocks away for a coffee catchup, I don’t have an umbrella and I have to walk. I don’t have control over time, my coffee date or the weather, so I’m going to suffer. I can’t argue with the weather or time, and while I can negotiate with my coffee date, this impacts them.

Somewhere in that I have to accept I’m either going to be late or going to be wet. I can worry about it, beat myself up about not bringing an umbrella or checking the forecast - or I can submit to the factors beyond my control and accept I’m going to be late or be wet.

That is one end of the “give your free will over” stick. The other end of it is a shorthand to saying the above, which is that God or Allah or fate willed it that way therefore there’s no point getting hung up upon being wet or being late. It was always going to happen, chill, someone else has this under control.

There is a peace to that thought. Nothing I do matters, it’s all pre ordained, therefore I don’t need to care. When I read the linked quote I think - oh, you’re worried about the kid thinking they can change everything just by fighting back. It doesn’t happen kid, best you accept the things you can’t control, and get on with a happier life.

My 2c etc etc

Keep your kinks to yourself.

Subsluts for Jesus :3

Translation: if you don’t beat some submission into your kids they’ll never learn to follow the church without question.