“Concepts of a Plan”: Trump Roasted for Having No Clue What He’s Doing
newrepublic.com
Donald Trump said he had just the outline of a health care plan during the presidential debate.

Donald Trump tried to sidestep giving a policy position on health care, and walked straight off of a rhetorical cliff.

During the presidential debate Tuesday night, Trump struggled to answer a question about his healthcare plan, accidentally revealing that he didn’t have one at all.

After his particularly lackluster response criticizing Obamacare but giving no alternatives, ABC moderate Linsey Davis asked Trump outright if he knew what he was talking about. “Yes or no, you still do not have a plan?” she said.

“I have concepts of a plan,” Trump replied. “I’m not president right now.”

  • acosmichippo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    59·
    2 months ago

    The plan is no plan. tear it all down and let the peasants fend for themselves. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      2 months ago

      Naw the system protects assholes like trump.

      Tearing it all down would give us peasants too much power.

        • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          It does? Interesting.

          Do go on. How does recognizing that the government/infrastructure and such exists, and referring to that absolve anyone of anything?

          Also… it’s not being abused. It’s designed to function this way. Which is why those “abusers” won’t tear it down and start over.

          • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
            21·
            2 months ago

            How does recognizing that the government/infrastructure and such exists, and referring to that absolve anyone of anything?

            Like I said, because you’re assigning the blame to The System instead of the people in it. Sometimes the system is set up in a way which harms people. Most of the time the people in the system are misusing it or ignoring protections that it stipulates to harm people. By always blaming The System only, you are ignoring the harm that these people in particular are causing and are misattributing the blame to other factors.

            If the people are bad, the system will produce bad outcomes. It is easier to change the system than to change the people, but they still deserve blame.

            • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
              11·
              2 months ago

              A gun, knife, screwdriver isn’t to be blamed for murder or the coercion they enabled any more than the government and legal system is to be blamed for anything.

              Machines, tools, things cannot be guilty of anything, even if they’re used in a crime.

              People are guilty, the people who built it, and who maintain it, and yes, the people who use it. I’m not excusing anyone of anything.

              I think you are, though, by failing to realize that whatever you want to call it, it’s fundamentally designed to protect the Haves from the Have-Nots.

              Trump using the system to stay out of jail isn’t abuse. It’s meant to be used that way.

              • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
                11·
                2 months ago

                You keep using passive voice. When you say “it’s meant to be used that way”, what do you mean? Who meant it to be used that way? The people who created it? They didn’t intend this. The people who modified it over time? That’s more than one distinct group. Or are you saying the design of the system itself incentivizes that use? Because I don’t think I agree with that either.

                Also as an aside: Depending on what you mean by “blame”, inanimate objects may be eligible imo. They can’t be culpable, but they can share causal blame.

                (I also feel compelled to mention that civil asset forfeiture frequently assigns guilt to inanimate objects, but I think we can agree that that legal practice is batshit insane.)

                • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  11·
                  2 months ago

                  Yes. I used general language because you’re getting all bent out of shape, missing the forest for the trees.

                  If we’re at the critiquing grammar stage, I guess there’s no further point. If you genuinely don’t know who and what I mean, that’s your problem.

  • ResoluteCatnap@lemmy.mlEnglish
    32·
    2 months ago

    His plan is project 2025 which he can’t say when he’s tried claiming he has nothing to do with it. But project 2025 has healthcare changes

  • MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world
    23·
    2 months ago

    “I’ll reveal my beautiful, beautiful healthcare plan for the millions and billions of Americans in two weeks… right after the crooked IRS finishes up my perfect audit.” ~tRump

  • Sway@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    2 months ago

    Gee, if people had just realized he has no idea what he’s doing 8+ years ago we all would’ve been better off.

    • Zron@lemmy.world
      12·
      2 months ago

      I distinctly remember that being a selling point of his first campaign.

      He was advertised as a Washington outsider, who had no connections and would drain the swamp.

  • Snapz@lemmy.world
    21·
    2 months ago

    Do you have the down payment to purchase this home?

    We have the concept of a down payment.

  • barsquid@lemmy.world
    12·
    2 months ago

    He just needs two more weeks, then we’ll have the most beautiful plan this country has ever seen.

  • Fedizen@lemmy.world
    7·
    2 months ago

    Its like when you fail a dialogue check in disco elysium, except this guy was president and not a hungover party cop