• Dkarma@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    This is getting old and isn’t effective when the only other option according to the US voting system is trump.

    Harris is Palestines best bet at continued existence. Sorry if that hurts your feelings or something…

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      2 months ago

      Harris is Palestines best bet at continued existence.

      She has promised to never cease sending bombs to Israel for it to “defend itself.”

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      2 months ago

      “Hold your nose and vote genocide”.

      Rather than rewarding genociders, might I suggest opposing them? I was told this was the worst crime, but apparently it isn’t as bad as not voting for it.

      If you’d like to do electoral math, being an automatic lever pull means you have no leverage. And if your conception of electoralism is to cheerlead and support top-down dictates, you’re actively disempowering yourself.

      But personally, I don’t think it should require game theory to not vote for any pro-genocide candidate. Demand better or be complicit. I certainly won’t forget this depravity.

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        2 months ago

        Better just to let democracy burn down. Can’t save one nation so let ours fall and have no chance to right the ship. Yeah that makes sense.

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          What democracy? Isn’t your argument that you have no choice but to genocide? Isn’t your argument that you can never use your vote as leverage to demand what you want?

          The strategy portion of what I listed is how you could attempt to be democratic rather than genocide candidate cheerleaders.

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            Jesus, why am I even wasting my time. I’ve voted in local elections, I’ve seen laws get passed by voters. That is how democracy works. You’re extreme view of “we can only vote for bad people” is beyond childish. The world is a fucked up place, we don’t always have the choices we would want. But saying some stupid shit like America isn’t a democracy is just ignorant and shows that you have no idea how or what a government is, let along are you equipped to have a conversation about it.

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              2 months ago

              They want trump, really, really want trump.

              And they don’t give a flying fuck at a rolling donut if everyone else hurts, as long as they get their way on it.

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      Harris is Palestines best bet at continued existence. Sorry if that hurts your feelings or something…

      continued existence is going to happen one way or the other. isreal is going for an american style genocide which means kill enough of the natives so that they’re a small, manageable enough number and then your country can spend the rest of its existence throwing enough $$$ at their reservations to ostensibly show you’re “super sorry” that you genocided so many of them; but not enough to for them to ever escape this newly imposed generational poverty and also without any promise that your country won’t ever fuck them over again in the future when another pipeline needs to be built.