• fluxion@lemmy.world
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    The GOP will always find some new way to fuck up the system. That’s basically what they do now, sabotage the political system to maintain undue control. Not even pre-existing Supreme Court precedents are respected anymore, the right to vote is under attack from countless sides, wrenches get thrown in everywhere …

    But you complain that the Democrats still try to get things done and at least expose the sad the state of our failing system rather than just waiting around for bulletproof golden opportunities that are somehow beyond the reach of all this fuckery.

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      But you complain that the Democrats still try to get things done

      Nope, I’m saying they’ll throw out a half-assed attempt and say “we tried”

      But they’re not trying.

      Like at the complete inaction over decades with the SC since you brought them up.

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        So bi-partisan country-wide reform of how cases are assigned along with enforceable ethics codes banning partisanship that all states agree to so that federal appeals are not needed and a Supreme Court overhaul on top before we even attempt to do anything other than bend over for MAGA activists who are passing regressive shady bills at an alarming rate…

        Good luck with that.

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          And your plan is…

          Ignore the insane amount of partisian judges, both on the SC and junior courts?

          When do things in your version get better?

          40-50 years when they die off?

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            Wow fixing the Supreme Court and court system why didn’t anyone think of that…

            Maybe Biden should have been appointing federal judges to balance out Trump’s appointments?

            https://www.brookings.edu/articles/can-biden-top-trumps-number-of-judicial-appointments/

            Maybe Democrats should propose ethics reform for Supreme Court? Maybe a change to term limits?

            https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-reform-biden-harris-trump-ffd48f3a2023aeca841bb53c2147ef03

            Unfortunately changes like this don’t happen with a magic wand and require pesky things like working around the inevitable House obstruction by winning the election and getting more House seats (otherwise you’d no doubt decry a Republican House blocking it as yet another doomed attempt by Democrats to change things).

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              So your plan is ignore all of the corrupt appointments?

              Until when exactly? Just let them die on the bench in a couple decades?

              That’s not fixing anything, it’s ignoring the problem.

              Exactly what I’m complaining about. I’m just not sure why I had to say the same thing twice. Is it still not making sense to you that fixing a problem works better than ignoring it?

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                Federal judges can only be removed by impeachment by the House of Representatives

                You have no plan and no idea what you are even complaining about.

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                  Federal judges can only be removed by impeachment by the House of Representatives

                  You obviously have no problem insisting you know more than me, but are you going to say you know more about it than Yale?

                  Well, . . . no. Contrary to the orthodoxy, nothing in the Constitution mandates that impeachment be the exclusive method for removing misbehaving judges.

                  https://www.yalelawjournal.org/forum/removing-federal-judges-without-impeachment

                  Just because you don’t know something, doesn’t mean no one else does.

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                    To my knowledge there has never been a federal judge removed in anyway other than impeachment. You would have to take an untested claim to court, prove it, then still to apply that process to remove judges case by case after. Unfortunately, it’s not us that gets to decide whether or not something is legal, it’s up to the “supreme” Court. I just can’t see us convincing 6 of those justices to accept consequences for their and their party’s actions. This would be a hell of a legal long shot.

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                    IV. Conclusion

                    Congress clearly can adopt measures to help the chambers impeach and convict. But Congress can go further and adopt statutes that remove judges upon proof of judicial misbehavior.

                    Unfortunately Congress adopting statutes to hold hearings on bad behavior still requires the cooperation of Congress according to “Yale”.

                    And unfortunately being appointed by Trump does not immediately constitute “bad behavior”. I prefer not your plan.