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    5 months ago

    “If you’re Biden and the Democratic Party and the mayor of Chicago, you just want peace and calm and stability,” said Andrew Baer, a University of Alabama at Birmingham history professor who studies policing and social movements. “You don’t want the bad optics of either suppressing a protest or the protest embarrassing the coronation of Biden.”

    Has anyone thought of maybe getting Biden to open a dialogue with protestors?

    Like, ideally he’d just stop supporting the genocide, but at least he could pretend to listen to them.

    Invite them to even speak at the convention to show that while Biden himself might not agree, the party is open to compromise with the left to form a coalition to prevent trump?

    I don’t get paid millions to run political campaigns, but it seems like that solves both problems, and all it takes is giving people left of Biden a seat at the table and a little oxygen to speak.

    It’s what he keeps saying we need to do with conservatives. It just seems backwards to treat them that way and progressives this way when looking at how likely they are to vote Biden.

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        5 months ago

        I disagree, those aren’t bribes to make Biden have these views. He genuinely would support Israel no matter what including if they stopped campaign donations.

        From a game theory perspective:

        If you bribe someone, they may ask for more money, the higher up they get, the more they cost. Or someone else could offer more to change.

        On a long timeline you want to instead spend that money elevating people who already have the required beliefs. Even if you stop paying them, they may get the legs to carry themselves and continue doing what you want for free.

        You can’t buy that type of loyalty, but you can use money to get that loyalty into power.

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      Has anyone thought of maybe getting Biden to open a dialogue with protestors?

      And the protestors are just supposed to fall for that?

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        Probably not, but it would help him beat Trump.

        Like, he’s doing so little, that even obvious pandering and just admitting he ain’t doing enough would be huge.

        For a lot of people, it’s less the specific issues Biden refuses to compromise on, it’s that he’s willing to bend over backwards and give conservatives whatever they want, but won’t even acknowledge anyone on his left or under 60 years old.

        He honestly doesn’t have to do much to be good enough to get more votes.

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          Probably not, but it would help him beat Trump.

          I doubt that… Biden in up against more than just Trump. He’s basically been painted into a realpolitik corner - and, to be fair to Biden, it isn’t even really Biden’s fault.

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            No he hasn’t, literally all he needs to do is just give the appearance that he gives half a damn what the people whose votes he needs want from him.

            It’s that fucking basic, and Biden just won’t do it.

            Not even getting into how Biden’s actions with the Southern border and Israel are 100% his fault. People were/are/will be begging him to not do that shit.

            But he won’t listen, even if it give trump another term.