Former Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., slammed former president Donald Trump as an "unrecoverable catastrophe" in her call for other Republicans to vote against him this year.

Former Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., a once-rising star in the GOP who fell out with her party over her criticism of Donald Trump, slammed the former president as an “unrecoverable catastrophe” in her call for other Republicans to vote against him this year.

“We see it on a daily basis, somebody who was willing to use violence in order to attempt to seize power, to stay in power, someone who represents unrecoverable catastrophe, frankly, in my view, and we have to do everything possible to ensure that he’s not reelected,” Cheney told “This Week” co-anchor Jonathan Karl.

  • dragontamer@lemmy.worldEnglish
    52·
    2 months ago

    Then you are politically stupid.

    The neocons losing power in the Republican Base represent a distinct advantage to your cause. Curry some temporary favor from the Neocons so that they elect Kamala this cycle.

    That’s all the Neocons want right now. For Trump to lose this year.

    Politics isn’t about the purity of your ideology, but instead about how many votes you can get. Each Neocon voting for Kamala is like gaining two votes: because they are the kind of people who would have otherwise solidly voted Republican this cycle.

    • Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world
      2·
      2 months ago

      Calling them out on their bullshit and taking their vote are not mutually exclusive. I don’t have to kiss your ass because we need you to fix what you fucked up in the first place.

      • dragontamer@lemmy.worldEnglish
        14·
        2 months ago

        Fucked up?

        It wasn’t the Neocons (Bush, Cheney, McCain) who brought us into this Trump mess.

        • Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world
          2·
          2 months ago

          Yeah the fuck it was. The Republican party has been catering to racists and homophobes since the great switch. You think Trump just appeared in a vacuum?

          • dragontamer@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            2 months ago

            Believe me when I say this: Neocons actually have principles (even if you don’t agree with them. Though I’m pretty sure you agree with America should be the shining beacon for the world / pro-food stamps / etc. etc. kind of conservatism).

            The fact remains: it’s the Neocons who wish for Trump to be defeated the most. The Republican party’s march away from policy and the dangerous stint of radical isolationism has harmed Neocons.

            It’s the treasonous Libertarian techbros, racists and MAGAts who you want defeated.

            And you should cater favor from the Neocons, who largely want USA to stay active abroad and gain strength through diplomacy and policy.

            We both agree on Ukraine (even if we disagree on Israel), and we likely agree on Taiwan. We likely agree on global trade and USA protecting it as well.

            • Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world
              1·
              2 months ago

              I’m not going to let Neocons try to rewrite history and pass the buck on Trump. If Neocons hate Trump so much why did Republicans like Nikki Haliey, Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, and Ted Cruz immediately kiss Trump’s ring the moment they realized he was going to win? The entire Republican party is responsible for Trump and they were the main party that stoked the fear of minorities and the disgust of the lgbtq community. Every Republican president candidate ran on brown ppl = criminals and gay ppl shouldnt have rights. You neocons had no problem voting in Tea Party candidates who were just a direct reaction to a black president and they were just Trump light. Neocons don’t like Trump because he makes you ALL look bad. That’s its. According to his policies the vast majority of Republicans believe in rewriting American history, cutting funding to anything that helps ppl, privatizing every government organization, forcing their religions moralsbon others, making anyone who’s not a WASP life a living hell. I know this because Republicans have been doing it since NIXON. For fuck sake you had a mass of Republicans on state and federal levels arguing against providing free lunches to kids in school!

              You are all responsible for Trump because of the Republican voting strategy of fall in line and vote for anyone with an R next to their name. You all picked party over country. Hopefully now you realized that’s a stupid idea. Democrats will take your vote but I’m going to be super pissed if they start catering to a bunch of ppl who historically voted for ppl who made the lives of everyone who wasn’t wealthy, white, Christian, and straight miserable.

              • dragontamer@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                2 months ago

                Neocons have lost power to the Tea Party yo.

                You’re pretending like Paul Ryan didn’t stand up to the Tea Part and get deposed. Or McCain get discredited as Trump rose up.

                But sure, forget our political struggle at your own peril. You need us this election.

                Two party system. The only real action Neocons have is to vote Republican or Democrat. Democrats are very much against our values (abortion, and historically Democrats were stupidly antiwar and this wouldn’t have supported Ukraine. But I’m glad to see Democrats turn around on that. Etc. etc). But there’s a lot of alignment now if you wish to take advantage.

                Neocons are a subgroup of the Republican base you 100% should be trying to switch over. It’s politically stupid to ignore this opportunity.