• over_clox@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    No, it’ll just end up raising the cost of milk and beef. The cows are still gonna fart and burp at the same rate, they don’t give a fuck about taxes.

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      5 months ago

      That’s also a good thing - eating less milk and beef is also good for the environment. Less demand means fewer cows, means fewer cow farts…

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        Cows don’t just magically disappear when there’s less demand. They need to regulate the farmers cattle breeding rate, and place hefty fines on them for exceeding that rate.

        A measly €100 per cow per year ain’t gonna do all that much, they can pay that off with just a few days worth of milk from the cow.

        And then still turn around and jack the price of milk up beyond the rate of their losses, and the farmers might likely end up profiting even more, despite the tax.

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      You know dairy/beef cows don’t exist regardless of farms, right? They’re bred for the industry. Tax means higher price, higher price means lower demand, lower demand means they won’t be breeding as many cows.

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      5 months ago

      And raising the price on a good does what to the demand…?

      C’mon, think back to your high-school economics class. I’m sure you can get the answer.

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        5 months ago

        People pay ridiculous prices for name brand products that they don’t even need. $800 for a phone, no problem. $2500 for a TV, no problem.

        If the little brats want some milk for their cereal, well mom is gonna just go out and buy a gallon of milk, even if it costs $20, just to shut the kids up.

        Might as well throw common sense economics out the window when everyone and their cousin thinks they need that fancy 62 inch curved screen 8K television, PlayStation 5, the latest MacBook and iPhone, etc.

        People piss money away on useless shit, you think the cost of a gallon of milk or a steak is gonna make a huge impact. Yeah sure, it’ll make a little impact, but I don’t think it’ll be as drastic of an impact as you’re thinking.

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            The only practical way they’re gonna reduce emissions from cows is to reduce the number of cows. How do you do that? Place restrictions on farmers breeding cows, place hefty fines on farmers that exceed those restrictions, and eat more cows.

            Taxing the farmers a measly €100 per year per cow isn’t gonna do all that much. You have any idea how much a good healthy cow is worth? Especially dairy cows, they just keep on delivering milk, for years.

            That’s basically my point, taxing the farmers what adds up to chump change in the cattle industry is not going to reduce the number of cattle.

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              5 months ago

              How do you do that?

              By making beef more expensive so that fewer people want to buy it. We’ve been over this three times already.

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                5 months ago

                Cows don’t disappear when there’s less demand. Cows disappear when people eat them, if they’d just regulate the breeding side of the cattle industry.

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                    Let’s do some math here…

                    100 / 365 ≈ €0.274 per day.

                    You really think that’ll put much of a dent in a farmer’s wallet?

                    Let’s do some more math. Let’s say they raise the price of a gallon of milk by €0.10. Nobody will bat an eye, they’ll just chalk it up to general inflation.

                    A good healthy dairy cow produces ~ 9 gallons of milk per day.

                    So, €0.10 * 9 = €0.90 per day extra, per dairy cow. That would actually yield the farmer an actual net gain of ~ €0.626 per day, per cow, subtracting the daily tax.

                    That would actually end up with the farmer gaining ~ €228.50 per year per cow, after the tax.

                    Ain’t nobody gonna bat an eye if they raise the cost of milk by €0.10 per gallon. Nothing will change, except the farmers will jack the prices around just enough that nobody cares and they actually profit from it.