Since Lemmy is federated, and the admins of each instance choose what’s allowed and what’s not in their own instance.

How do you feel about what’s allowed and what’s not in your current instance ?

I’ll start: I’ve read people complaining about my instance admins, but I haven’t experienced nor seen anything I specifically disagree with.

And I’ve read things they wrote that I absolutely agree with, like not federating with Meta under any circumstances.

So for now, I’m happy with it. If I get banned randomly, I don’t think I’d go to a different instance, though. I’d probably just stop visiting Lemmy altogether.

  • Lettuce eat lettuce@lemmy.ml
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    .ml here, I’m happy with this community. I know the reputation it has, but honestly, I haven’t really seen it. I’m a hardcore leftist, but I’ve been very critical of China, Russia, etc. And I’m not a tankie. Obviously haven’t been banned or had my comments removed.

    The mods here seem quite reasonable, and of course if folks don’t agree, there are a lot of other instances.

    I used to be a free-speech absolutist when I was young, but then I realized that there isn’t such a thing. Even the few places online that pride themselves on having “no censorship” like 4-chan still have a handful of things that they don’t allow.

    Quite frankly, I think those places are pretty nasty overall and I have no desire to emulate them. Racists, Pedos, lgbt-phobes don’t need a platform or to have their opinions elevated or taken seriously.

    I wouldn’t think a top university’s physics department is improved by devoting classes and curriculum to flat earth or 7-day creationism. Likewise, I don’t think a forum or server is made better by allowing racists and bigots to have a safe space on it.

    Of course, you have to decide what crosses the line, but welcome to real life. There’s a difference between a hardcore neo-nazi who thinks Jews and black folks are literal sub-humans, and your 87 year-old grandpa who unironically calls the employees at his favorite asian buffet, “Chinamen.”

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      I haven’t really had any bad experiences with .ml communities or users. I consider myself a Marxist actually. I mostly saw the China, Russia, and North Korean dick sucking on Reddit. I remember someone on Reddit actually arguing that leftists should use Redstar OS (North Korean Linux distro designed to spy on its users) because its made by a socialist country that cares about its people. Guess that’s why they’re executed for stealing bread. I’m sorry about your instances bad reputation, I really haven’t seen it. Besides, there are assholes in every community.

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      In general communities it’s ok here but in global events it’s easy to see in the modlog that certain topics which are not favorable for Socialist-In-Name-Only are hidden very fast.

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    I’m happy with Lemmy.ml. I feel like moderation is taken seriously here and that is a very good thing. I don’t care for “free speech” that provides a platform for immoral points of view. For example, I do not need to consider the opinions of racists or Nazis. I’ve heard them plenty and there is no redeeming value in their speech. It is a settled debate. Anyone who doesn’t understand that deserves your suspicion.

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      Also on .ml and agree. Nazi shit on an instance makes it unusable as far as I’m concerned.

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      .ml rocks. I know people are upset when tankies post walls of text but it’s their space to. I just wish they could live how they want, same as I do. Even if we want very different things in life. Want some get some.

      You don’t have to craft a PhD dissertation any time they reply to you. Just move on to the next shit post. Some feel obligated, and that’s your perogative. I have to many part time jobs to reply to everyone here.

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    Not bad. The thing with “censorship” is that there are no real “free-speech” instances, all instances have opinions they deem intolerable and thus prune (whether selectively or overtly), and many selectively federate and defederate in a manner that makes one camp of thought more dominant, ie liberalism on Lemmy.world via defederation from Hexbear and Lemmygrad, etc.

    Lemmy.ml is quicker to remove comments that break the rules than other instances, but is also more broadly federated and thus gets more points of view than, say, Lemmy.world. Lemmy.world on the other hand is more selective with what it removes, but intentionally defederates from instances with heavy concentrations of Marxists, a more subtle form of “censorship” that ultimately shapes the dominant narratives on its instance.

    What this ultimately means is that the answer is to openly admit bias, which exists in everyone, and accept that as a natural consequence of the fediverse model. I wouldn’t go to Lemmy.world if I wanted to know the opinion of Marxists just like I wouldn’t go to Lemmygrad if I wanted to know the opinion of liberals on a subject, this recognition of bias is an intrinsic aspect of the federated model and needs to be openly recognized, otherwise sabre rattling about “censorship” between instances becomes a never-ending source of unconstructive drama.

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    I find, it’s useful to piss off the nazis. For example, lemmy.ml has a word filter, which has hardly an impact on anything. But the free-speech absolutists who want to be allowed to say that we should murder ethnic groups of people, because they think that’s an opinion, they see that as censorship, so they don’t care to join here.

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    “Censorship” has become a buzzword and lost all of its meaning

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    I’m on lemmy.one which has disabled downvoting. If I had known in advance I would have picked another instance. Unfortunately, Lemmy doesn’t have a mechanism to transfer your account to another instance yet.

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    I’ve been thinking about switching over to lemmy.today as it’s not currently defederated with anyone, so I can decide who to block and keep for myself. It’s based in Oregon, and I like the idea of joining an instance close to me. I do worry about Lemmy.world being so overly dominate in the federated-lemmy-space.

    But many of the communities that I participate in are lemmy.world, and it’s nice that they send me an automated notice whenever a post/comment of mine is removed. I’ve already subscribed to many communities and would have to do that all over again. and I haven’t thought of a creative new username.

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    I just had all of my comments deleted by the mod of a vegan group because I questioned one person. Seems lemmy is bringing over mods from reddit and their attitudes.

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      From what I’ve read, in our instance, it’s being critical of China that gets you banned.

      But I don’t know how much of that is people being straight-up racist/xenophobic and then conflating it with being critical.

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      Lemmy.ml does censor a lot of profanity, but other than that it doesn’t seem any more or less overtly heavyhanded on censorship than other instances.

      That being said, I suppose self-censorship among the community is another factor to consider as well, as I’ve seen a lot of instances purge their own versions of wrongthink depending on which mod is on a power trip.

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    The automated censorship that keeps out CSAM and blatant trolling and scams? I love it.

    The moderation that’s done over the whole instance. That’s understandable as it’s a large attack surface for regulatory or state actor interference.

    The community mods, that depends on the /c and honestly it’s the same as it’s ever been. It’s wildly variable from person to person.

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    It’s a little high for my tastes, notably in blocking piracy communities from other servers. I don’t even care to participate in them; it’s a matter of principle.

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    My instance is great.

    If I get banned randomly, I don’t think I’d go to a different instance, though. I’d probably just stop visiting Lemmy altogether.

    In that case check the modlog and if it’s unreasonable why not try out another instance?