Think about it, do you really want to have X11 going forward the next decades?

If the alternative is a new system that literally does nothing? Sure!

Want to present a menu for windows? Wayland: “lol, do it yourself”.

Want to position a window? Wayland: “lol, do it yourself”.

Want to remember that a window has a position? Wayland: “lol, do it yourself”.

Want to add a global keyboard shortcut? Wayland: “AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!”

X11 may be old and whatever you want, but it works and it’s battle-tested. Wayland can’t even launch a full desktop session in my machine, which is even less than the failure Pulseaudio was back in its day and that’s saying something. And even if it did somehow launch, I probably would not be able to use anything serious like a media player or multiple workspaces on it.

I mean yes, how exactly would you want the web to work?

Text and images and hyperlinks; maybe audio and video if you’re lucky and you can prove you can be trusted. No such thing as scripting, or if it’s allowed, only in a limited manner with no such thing as “eval” and obfuscation and no ability to add or delete nodes from the DOM (or if it’s allowed, those nodes must reflect under View Source / CTRL+U). No such things as loading a javascript audioplayer that tries to mix 123456 weird sources, just link me the .m3u direct to the audio stream’s .mp3 file, or even better an .opus.

Definitively no DRM.

If any such thing as GPU access is provided it should be to deposit data, not to run code.

It’s not dead there either, although I’d make the argument that X11 as a project is “mature” or “finalized”, it doesn’t really need hyperactive development like the tiktok children are used to.

(There are very good arguments that a new software stack was needed, but I’d expect the result to at least do something; ATM Wayland is little more than literally a “everyone else do my work for me” project)

lol, Wayland can’t even start a desktop session on my machine, whereas X11 has worked without issues since 2009 (the last time I ever had to edit xorg.conf).

Sure sounds like X11 is the one who’s “dead” around here!

To be fair, the fact that browsers are allowed to do so much that this warning has to be shown is more an indictment on the current state of browsers (which at this point are almost like installing VMWare and a virtual machine on your computer!) than on something something Firefox or something something Flatpak.

I felt dirty!

“Senpai, route me like one of your French ISPs”