Musk here is using the Tucker Carlson technique of “just asking questions”. An answer is easily found. “Robinson” (not his real name) is in jail for 18 months because he committed crimes, admitted to them in court, and was found guilty of them in a court of law. Hardly tyranny. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/28/tommy-robinson-admits-contempt-of-court-over-false-claims-about-refugee

You are 100% correct to worry about this, of course. That said, I don’t see something more than 3.6M people (half the registered voters of Michigan to just pick that one state as an example) seeing themselves disenfranchised like in your scenario being silent about it and calmly waiting for the courts. I guess I’m saying the perpetrators of such a scheme would have more to worry about than just losing a court case.

On a side note, its interesting that in Michigan it appears that as of today 41% of registered voters have already voted.
https://www.michigan.gov/sos/elections/election-results-and-data/voter-participation-dashboard

I found this document which lists all of the timeline for Michigan certification: https://campaignlegal.org/sites/default/files/2024-09/Michigan Guide - Final.pdf (apparently this has been on a lot of folks’ radar for awhile :)

that document makes it clear that in Michigan at least certification is a mandatory duty in both the constitution and by state law.

Yes, good points. I posted the comment originally because it is alarming.

According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, Veterans on Patrol founder, Michael Meyer is not a veteran. https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/veterans-patrol

The Constitution only grants the President the power to pardon federal crimes. I found a nice article with the history and status of the cases against the bad actors in the last attempt here: https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/where-the-fake-electors-cases-stand-in-state-court

It would be worth looking into which states have wording in their Constitutions that include “shall certify” which would make the stalling tactic a crime.

Also, anyone who voted in a state whose electors were not sent on time would have a valid civil rights case against that state’s officials and they would all have standing because they were personally harmed. The number of potential lawsuits would be overwhelming and perhaps ruinous to anyone found guilty. Not sure that fear of that would be enough to stop them, but also they have to worry about losing their next election (though if it worked they might hope to be rewarded by the winning administration).

Thanks bot. Its a post by Robert Reich on his substack. Maybe not a “news outlet” but direct from someone who is constantly interviewed and in the news. His CV is rather lengthy so I will just link to a wikipedia article about him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Reich