I have had to deal with dependency hells plenty, i am a Debian user after all.

But with that argument you’re now just running outdated shit in a container. Not a great pro-docker argument tbh.

I rather have the dependency hell.

What? Outdated junk running in containers because the maintainer didnt update their shit is not a real problem?

Seems that it is perhaps you who doesnt know how to use it.

Docker has its uses, but it has gone to far.

I already have a webserver with Apache, mariadb and everything. Why does your PHP based website only come as a docker solution? Fuck you.

When you go all in with docker, it quickly becomes a mess with rando NICs and containers named “random 32 character string” and dependencies up the wazoo. Ending up running ancient packages because the developer refuses to apt upgrade their shit.

Proxmox or any other hypervisor platform gives you control. Whereas you have to take it for docker and youre still at the mercy or the developers to keep your shit secure.