• Dkarma@lemmy.world
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    Even better The war started cuz they were too weak to control their slaves and a bunch of them.escaped. the south wanted to force northern states to round up and return the runaway slaves at cost to the northern states.

  • Psychodelic@lemmy.world
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    Just to be clear, the history bit to learn here is that the South started the war and the North never would’ve started it on their own?

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPM
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      Essentially. Lincoln was elected as an anti-slavery candidate, but the position of the Republican Party (THE anti-slavery party of the period) was that slavery was to be isolated and let to die out on its own, as industrial and rationalized production had begun to undermine the profitability of slavery. In theory.

      Whether that would have worked or not, it was an opinion that many of the Southern slaver aristocracy agreed with - they believed slavery needed to expand, or it would die. Rather than stop for a moment and consider the wisdom of an economic system that, by their own estimates, was not sustainable, they decided that the North stopping them from expanding slavery was, itself, a form of the worst oppression imaginable (obviously, MUCH worse than literal fucking chattel slavery).

      So they seceded. And in doing so, they erased all incentive for Northern abolitionists to stick to the “Let it die out quietly and slowly, or we might have a very bloody war on our hands” line, and radicalized much of the north into advocacy for the total and immediate abolition of slavery.

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        Thank you Pug, btw. It’s fun to come for the memes. It’s a step above the rest to learn something in the process. Literally a gentleman and a scholar.

      • General_Effort@lemmy.world
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        They didn’t just secede, they started shooting. If the south had not attacked the US Army, I don’t know if the USA would have had the political will for the necessary sacrifices.

        I wonder if that was a kind of déformation professionnelle. They were slavers and used to force their will through immediate, massive, brutal violence.

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          déformation professionnelle

          Fascinating. First time I’ve heard this term. I’ll have to use it in the future.

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      The aouth went to war because they wanted to force the north to support their slavery by arresting and returning escaped slaves, and the north refused.

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    But… but… muh heritage! And muh pappy’s heritage! And muh pappy’s pappy’s pappy’s heritage!