EDIT: I should clarify, by Jill Stein, I mean what her party’s official platform and policies are, as reflected by her statements in interviews
It’s not a policy question it’s a media question. The right started taking over news media the day Nixon resigned. Repealing the Fairness doctrine, ending League of Women voters debates, propping up Fox news, and Sinclair media buying out all the local stations. That’s the decades long community goal they’ve been running. The left needs to understand it, and how to fight it, because MSNBC isn’t doing it.
Every four years Jill Stein emerges from her burrow. If she sees her shadow, it will be four more years of fascism.
You can’t vote out fascism, fascism is Capitalism in decay and it doesn’t care about electoral politics.
Do not compare Bernie Sanders to Jill Stein. Jill Stein is an anti-vaxxer and a Russian spy.
You may as well ask, what would happen if the Democratic party were a different party?
The DNC pulled out all the stops to keep Sanders from the general election, twice. They can absolutely win elections, when they want to block any movement toward the left.
I recommend listening to this: Why the Democratic Party CANNOT and WILL NOT be Reformed
They’d win elections more frequently, and the collapse of the US Empire would slow just a bit.
Don’t know much about Stein, but most of what I’ve heard from Sanders sounds like the kind of sanity that the asylum riots to resist. The USA has no Left.
they win.
in 2016 jill stein campaigned on canceling student debt. that was a major part of her platform. in 2020, joe biden included student debt cancelation in his platform, and he won.
Jill Stein the useful idiot?
You people will eventually need to understand that you’re wrong and you’re the reason Trump is in office. Hope you figure it out before you’re on the wrong end of an open class war.
i want to believe that the democrats could have won; but they’re so good at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory that they still would have let trump win again.
They’d win. Assuming they invest in messaging and campaigning, instead of whatever the fuck Harris spent a billion on.
She spent a million of it on this chat with Oprah.
Why would that persuade someone living in a swing state that sometimes vote republican and sometimes democrat to vote D?
I think you over estimate how many hard lefts don’t bother voting at all because both parties are too similar.
Going more left will cost more votes than they would gain.
I think you underestimate how many don’t vote because neither party offers them something worth voting for. A huge percentage of US Americans don’t vote, yet polling for progressive policies always polls better.
By going progressive you aren’t convincing the rare swing voter, but the massive number of disaffected voters. These aren’t far-left, but disenfranchised from the entire system.
But every vote from the center is a vote you deny the other party.
So extreme left/right policies have to be twice as popular to be worth it.
For starters, there are only right and extreme right policies among the Dems and Reps. Secondly, there is a massive pool of disaffected voters that would vote for a lukewarm progressive like Bernie, who was projected to even steal Trump voters, because progressive policy is popular. The Dems ran rightward and lost their voters in general.
How are centrists and “moderates” that pliable if the alternative is escalatingly radicalilizing (the right)?
