Yeah, both sides amiright?

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    Weird how repeatedly calling for an immediate cease fire and a two state solution in Israel = “Harris genocide”.

    Removed for misinformation.

    March - https://www.npr.org/2024/03/04/1234822836/kamala-harris-benny-gantz-gaza-cease-fire-israel-hamas

    “Monday’s meeting in Washington, D.C., comes one day after Harris called for an immediate, temporary cease-fire in Gaza to facilitate an exchange of Israeli hostages for Palestinian prisoners and detainees. Harris is expected to continue pressing Israel to pause the fighting and allow more humanitarian aid into Gaza.”

    July - https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/25/harris-netanyahu-israel-cease-fire-00171315

    “Vice President Kamala Harris met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in private Thursday and followed it with a strikingly forceful call on his government to get a cease-fire deal done and ease the suffering of civilians in Gaza.”

    September - https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/harris-trump-presidential-debate-election-2024/card/harris-calls-for-ceasefire-in-gaza-while-trump-claims-she-hates-israel--isokhfqmy6EgRGrUOSuK

    “Vice President Kamala Harris reiterated her call for a ceasefire-for-hostage deal in Gaza while expressing sympathy for both Israelis and Palestinians affected by the conflict. Harris condemned the Oct. 7 attack by Hamas on southern Israel but said “far too many innocent Palestinians have been killed” by Israel’s ongoing military offensive in Gaza.”

    Do you get something out of mis-representing what she said and did? Or were you just not actually paying attention?

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        As I’ve told multiple propagandists, the support for Israel was for proper Israeli defense, NOT the genocide.

        Nobody, not a single person, in the Biden Administration, delivered weapons with the explicit permission of “By all means, kill as many Palestinians as you want.”

        The Israelis misappropriated the weapons to do that.

        Feel free to blame Netanyahu and Likud for the genocide all you want, they are the ACTUAL perpetrators.

        You should be able to tell this because the genocide started 10/7 before a dime of US aid had been promised or delivered.

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          They’re still sending weapons. You can’t keep giving guns to a guy that keeps murdering people, and then say “I told him not to murder people it’s not my fault”. How would that hold up in court?

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            As long as Israel is under threat from Iran and other forces, we will continue sending them weapons and support. That’s the entire stated reason for supporting them.

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              And Israel keeps mass-murdering civilians with said weapons and the US govt knows it.

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                  That excuse wouldn’t fly in a courtroom if someone helped a murderer (repeatedly and knowingly), even if they claim they gave them the weapon for self-defense. It’s proven the US govt knows what the weapons are used for, and they’ve been sending them continuously for over a year. It’s called being an accessory to the crime.

                  Btw the genocide convention explicitly lists under article III e “complicity in genocide.”

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                    If I loan my kid a gun because he doesn’t feel safe in his house, and he later uses that gun to commit a crime, the only way I get in trouble is if he legally were not allowed to own the gun in the first place.

                    To date, Israel has not been sanctioned in that manner. It’s perfectly legal to supply them.