Summary
President Joe Biden’s economic achievements—lowering inflation, reducing gas prices, creating jobs, and boosting manufacturing—are largely unrecognized by the public, despite his successes.
His tenure saw landmark legislation like the Inflation Reduction Act, CHIPS Act, and major infrastructure investments.
However, Biden’s approval ratings remain low, attributed to inflation backlash, weak communication, and a media landscape prone to misinformation.
Democrats face a “propaganda problem” rather than a policy failure, with many voters likely to credit incoming President Trump for Biden’s accomplishments due to partisan messaging and social media dynamics.
And yet with all of that being true his response to covid was objectively better than Biden’s for the reasons that were already written down when you decided to reply to this post and not that one
The cynicism of the liberal cannot be measured by earthy tools for its scale is greater than the earth itself
Did Biden stop using the covid state of emergency at the border or did he use more than Trump? The answer is that he deported as many as Trump’s entire term in his first two years.
Which reasons? It objectively wasn’t better at all lol
Trump was in office for only 1 year of covid. During which he did nothing except increase shares of horse medication companies and sabotage pandemic measures. The entirety of Bidens presidency was with covid
What covid response did you want Biden to continue with long term specifically?
The idea was to get vaccinated which made it safer to reopen and vaccines were released shortly before Biden became president, and they were effective at reducing deaths.
Many people who died were people who listened to Trump and chose to deworm themselves instead of vaccination
It ends up on Bidens tally sure. But if king dumbass spent his time telling people they were safe and encouraging his dumbass followers to wear masks and vaccinate, we possibly could have delayed some variants too
But his followers only seem to want to stick baby diapers on their ears apparently, not wear masks thanks to Trump
Trump was more interested in sabotaging his opponent after he lost. Just like he spent Bidens presidency trying to sabotage the economy
I was accused of engaging in bad faith before anyone had even replied to me and this shit is getting upvoted despite objectively being in bad faith.
I listed a half dozen things in the comment you chose not to reply to. I mentioned his opportunistic use of the pandemic to expand Trump’s (Obama’s) fascist policies on the border IN THE COMMENT YOU REPLIED TO. There were no other replies at that time. It was literally on your screen just below where you clicked to reply. Now you’re choosing to pretend they don’t exist while making a counter argument supported by nothing but the ‘lol’ at the end of your sentence.
Is this the best your community has to offer? Because the level of debate here is dogshit no matter how many ‘no u’ throwaways I get as a reply.
Umm.
Some of your list is nonsense like ending the state of emergency. It ended in 2023. That was 1.5 years after the vaccines were readily available and nearly 3 years after the first detections. Most people dying at that point were people making that choice. It was bad, but not an emergency anymore. That’s normal. RAT tests were also available by that time
And stuff like the 5 day quarantine period was done worldwide. That’s the minimum period. When that change was made everyone who wanted a vaccine was already vaccinated. You’ll note that diseases like influenza which can also kill don’t and didn’t have a minimum quarantine period. This doesn’t mean the period can’t be longer
Or do you propose the full 10 days even in 2024? I’m sure Trump followers will certainly follow that
In fact, trump has all but eliminated the chances of eliminating many diseases in many countries now because he’s spread distrust
What part do you think Trump did well? When Trump gave Rat tests to Putin, that was really useful. I bet the first thing Putin did was share them to people in need on a non partisan basis and not boast what a great leader he was
For a moment I’d like to step away from directly replying to your comment because every revision I write ends up being all caps screaming at you. Instead I’d like to ask you a question:
Do homeless people deserve to die? They have the option of getting a job and finding a place to live. They’re choosing not to. They chose to live how they are, right? And the disease and crime that affects the community around them because they’re cut off from government services like plumbing and mail… that’s not an emergency, right? It’s just normal.
Transitioning back to your covid denialism… let’s step away from the people you explicitly write off and talk about the people you implicitly wish death upon:
Do disabled people deserve to die because you have an axe to grind with Trump supporters?
There’s so goddamned much in your comment that it feels irresponsible to let even a single line go without direct confrontation. You repeat the covid denialist lies about “a pandemic of the unvaccinated.” You ignore the effects of the virus in total. You ignore the scale of the pandemic today.
One last question: Do you even wear a mask in public anymore? Do you deserve to die if the answer is no? Do you deserve to be disabled for the rest of your life? Do the people in the grocery store deserve to die just because you walk past them?
Lol. You didn’t just move the goalposts. You put them on a rocket and fired them into orbit.
elaborate
You’re a fool that changes the topic of discussion when you find yourself losing an argument.
What topic did I change it from and to? You’re talking nonsense. Every comment in the thread is about the Covid response.
Honestly please stop just saying the first reaction you have and give yourself time to think.
What in God’s name are you talking about
I’m not American, but from what I can see, CDC have a free program for Covid vaccines for those without insurance
Vaccination reduces death and other side effects 10x
If the disabled people aren’t vaccinated, it’s their own fault.
The only ones I feel sorry for are those with compromised immune systems or who can’t vaccinate (for valid reasons)
However, those guys are also in trouble with the flu too unfortunately
That’s over. It’s 200 bucks now
You’re a eugenicist then. There actually are people who can’t be vaccinated because of health issues. And you’re ignorant of more than that. Vaccinated people can still get the disease. And even asymptomatic cases have a high risk of long term effects.
Oh and by the way fucking no one’s been getting the boosters for the new variants so you’re writing off most of the human race.
Oh shoot I didn’t read enough before I called you a eugenicist. You’re sad about it. Well then.
Disabled and immunocompromised are two totally different things mate… If you can’t walk, you’re considered disabled, but there is no reason you can’t get vaccinated
And even many immunocompromised people can get vaccinated. To be blunt, anyone who actually knows an immunocompromised person isn’t going to visit them when they have the flu, simply because there is no mandatory quarantine period.
The common cold, flu and herpes can kill immunocompromised people. So, I hope you’re willing to isolate when you have a cold sore… In fact, you could argue that almost every person on this planet is contagious for something at the moment.
As I said, with the exception for people who CANNOT get vaccinated, there is literally NO reason why they shouldn’t have been vaccinated by the time Biden became president. And guess who was responsible for not isolating and telling people not to wear masks? His name sounds like Tramp.
It’s very annoying when someone is this condescending and it’s because they made a mistake while following the conversation.
People are disabled BY covid. Covid does both, in fact. Even if you’re vaccinated.
None of the shit you’re saying right now is honestly even relevant because you’re talking about a vaccine only strategy that’s entirely voluntary for the individual and that vaccine isn’t going to stop the pandemic or even spare people from the effects of it over the long term.
Liberals today are now saying the exact same thing Trump cultists were saying in Aug 2020 word for fucking word.
One good reason is the vaccine didn’t exist at that point >_>
NO. THAT WAS BIDEN AND THE LIBERALS. GET IT STRAIGHT.
When the fucking chuds were doing their fishnet mask protest bullshit it was still normal to mask. It wasn’t until the DEMOCRATS started trying to manufacture the sociological construction of the end of the pandemic that all of a sudden it became weird to mask.
https://soundcloud.com/deathpanel/how-liberals-killed-masking-unlocked
I know asking people to listen to something is a stretch but if you want an example of what I’m talking about, this podcast episode is reading a timeline so you can just skim through. I also recommend their Covid: year X episodes for a timeline of administrative actions. They’re all very long I’m sorry.
You realize that the entire reason COVID spread so fast and sickened so many is that Trump gutted the CDC (and more specifically gutted the CDC’s pandemic task force) then aggressively pushed misinformation during the opening phase of the pandemic right? The few folks remaining at the CDC were under politically motivated orders to play down the pandemic the entire time Trump was in office so that Trump could try and pretend his economy (which he inherited from Obama) wasn’t shitting the bed while he ran for reelection.
Remember the bit where Trump thought a big pandemic would be good for his voting numbers because it was supposed to hit the blue cities harder than his red state supporters? Remember how we needed freezer trucks as temporary morgues for a year as a result?
No, not the entire reason. Not even the entire reason for the first year before Biden did all the same things but with liberal complacency. The main reason was because we never had a shutdown. We never payed people to stay home sick. The way to address a pandemic is fundamentally at odds with the basis of our economic system. The only reason there was a reaction besides the trillions of dollars of bailouts during Trump was because capital was genuinely panicked. Once they realized it was something that would just slowly kill us off with disability and repeat infections, they had to slowly remove that reaction which happened under Biden. That’s why Biden was objectively worse than Trump. They’re not better or worse than each other they’re flipping figureheads in the first place.
And what did you think happened after Biden appointed a damned venture capitalist to run the agency? I already laid out just one example of Biden’s CDC warping their presentation of evidence to falsely downplay the pandemic. And look at the reaction in this thread! Liberals honestly believe the pandemic is over! Despite all measurable evidence to the contrary!
Okay?? Remember when Democrats pretended to care about the pandemic purely as a way to beat Trump? And then started their Op-ed mill about sending kids back to school before the vaccine was even out??