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    11 days ago

    Commit a crime against others, pardon crimes against friends, dissolve criminal investigation of self.

    Totally normal first-day agenda for a supposedly democratic country.

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    11 days ago

    Yeah, we know. I am particularly interested in seeing if he will go the extra mile and try the self-pardon, though. If he does that, and the courts uphold it, then we know we’ve officially crossed the line to dictatorship.

    If he doesn’t, it will only be because people tell him the courts won’t back him on that.

    OTOH, there is always the tiny, tiny chance that the self-pardon is a step too far, and convince Republicans to finally impeach his ass.

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      There is no way a self pardon will be the line too far. Democrats expect it and the Republican electorate would cheer him on.

      If he crosses a line it will be fucking with other Republican’s money.

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      Plan B or maybe it is plan A is do a money grab, hand over the presidency to Vance, and have Vance do all the pardons, and he walks free.

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        That would require Trump to trust Vance. The absolute split second that Trump is out of power, everyone will turn on him. There’s no such thing as loyalty, just self interest.

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      Does he need to yet?

      It’s not like he can be impeached and most of the cases will pause by default as he’s a sitting president. If any don’t he’ll have a tame Attorney General to kill them for him. State level charges could have a theoretical shot, but what state will take that fight?

      The window to hold him accountable was 2020-2024 and the people responsible dropped the ball, sometimes with obvious intention, sometimes from naivité or incompetence

      The problem as usual is that the Democrats bring Debate Club weapons to a knife fight

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    11 days ago

    He did say in a recent interview that he would not pardon himself so we know he will do that on day one for sure. I am going to nickname him Mr. Opposite since I won’t acknowledge him as an actual president.

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    11 days ago

    This is all a result of the weakness that voters allow for in supporting the lessor of two bad options rather than demanding more from our representatives.

    it’s too late now.

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      10 days ago

      if we demand more from representatives and succeed you dingdongs accuse them of coopting all of the energy. depart, wrecker

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        she lost because she didn’t feel she needed to have policies popular among her voters, her base.

        The people who lost this election for us were those defending the candidates position on the indefensible, with lines like “But Trump is worse”

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      10 days ago

      It’s too late for this now, but this video succinctly explains why this line of thinking doesn’t apply under first past the post:

      Https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

      The correct move was everybody backs Kamala and then busts her balls on progressive issues.