I have my first PSL meeting on Sunday, I’m really anxious (hello social anxiety) but I’m bringing my husband. Organize or die is what I’m thinking! I’m sorry your post brought out miserable people
Capitalism does not need to go. Croneyism needs to go. Our government has for decades been catering to the corporations that run America, from Amazon to the Railroad. They helped these massive corporations consolidate their markets by regulating small and new players out of existence. They take their money and make sure they don’t lose their spots on top.
That suggestion would only be as bigoted as calling criticism from an El Salvadoran bigoted. I’m a white male American and I say America is full of idiots. That was how Trump got into the White House to begin with, and it’s why he’s going back. It’s not either party’s fault, it’s that the majority of Americans are just stupid.
Am I saying that criticism from the outside world is a bad thing? No. What I’m saying is that I could very easily point at bad things about any country - it solves absolutely nothing.
The DNC isn’t entitled to Americans votes. They lost us and lost folks to the Republicans because they promised to fix the economy and are actually talking to people directly. The DNC is fucking dead to me.
I voted Kamala but I knew she didn’t stand a chance. I knew we were cooked when it was Biden/Kamala
Thank you for choosing Kamala even though you didn’t want to. We’re in this mess because too many people were the cartoon character somebody posted above.
Leftists can definitely be as stupid as rightists, and we’re seeing it in full technicolor in this thread. “Waaaahhh, there weren’t any good options. I should be able to click on something perfect!”
You realize all of you are capitalists right? Unless you live in the woods without a job or SIN and away from money, you’re part of the capitalist system. You may wish to be a green army jacket wearing commies but you’re not. Americans no longer have a sense of reality.
“All capitalists are right wingers!” You guys became what you criticized, every bit as reactionary, hateful and living in a black and white world as the trumpers. I personally have never experienced the level of racism and intolerance from the left that I saw this election. I’m native who has always been anti fascist, I never hung out with or been friends with right wing weirdos, yet I’ve been called a Nazi cause I don’t agree with everything you guys say. White kids calling people of color Nazis, that’s where the American left is at.
No I am not a capitalist, I am working class. Any member of the working class calling themselves a capitalist is delusional. I exist within a capitalist system and therefore I engage with it or starve. Should I starve for my ideals and nothing more?
When I say all capitalist are right wingers I mean that because the economic structure is the basis of seperation in real politics. The left is socialist and the right is capitalist simple as. The only reason liberals believe they are on the left is because the US jailed and executed communist and anarchists while dismantling all of their party structures both in the US and outside of the US. You believe you are on the left because the ruling class succeeded in eliminating their only real opposition domestically. The Democratic party is left of the Republican party but it is still firmly on the right and always has been.
I’m not some white kid calling you a nazi. I’m not stupid enough to believe that’s what you are. More than likely you are a person who sees all the problems in America and doesn’t fall for the reactionary minority scapegoating of Republicans but has never been given a material basis for understanding political economy. There has never been a party that gave you material reasons for why things are the way that they are and how they can be fixed in concrete terms. The best Democrats offer is vague statements about how things will get better but also how things are already totally great, scapegoating a foreign power, or pointing out how awful their opponent is.
There are reasons for why America is in the state it is in, these reasons are known and understood. There are solutions that we know will work to fix these problems with our society that we have seen empirically proof for. You can learn the reasons for these problems, how we can solve them, and why the solutions work. It is not “too complex” you do not need a degree for it. You must only read.
This is what got me started. You don’t need to watch it, but it changed my life and may help you understand my perspective. Yellow Parenti
The Democratic party has failed us. We need an actual workers party and we have about 3 years to build it.
Join PSL if you have not already
I have my first PSL meeting on Sunday, I’m really anxious (hello social anxiety) but I’m bringing my husband. Organize or die is what I’m thinking! I’m sorry your post brought out miserable people
Capitalism does not need to go. Croneyism needs to go. Our government has for decades been catering to the corporations that run America, from Amazon to the Railroad. They helped these massive corporations consolidate their markets by regulating small and new players out of existence. They take their money and make sure they don’t lose their spots on top.
You guys don’t deserve it. This election proved to me that you’re leftists can be every bit as hateful as your right
Yeah the people advocating for the end of a genocide and social healthcare are the hateful ones 💀
They’re not hateful, just too stupid to face the reality that one of the two viable choices they had was clearly much better than the other.
You’re from El Salvador. Should I suggest that El Salvadorians deserve MS-13 because you’re stupid brown people who can’t get away from drugs?
No, you bigoted piece of shit.
That suggestion would only be as bigoted as calling criticism from an El Salvadoran bigoted. I’m a white male American and I say America is full of idiots. That was how Trump got into the White House to begin with, and it’s why he’s going back. It’s not either party’s fault, it’s that the majority of Americans are just stupid.
Am I saying that criticism from the outside world is a bad thing? No. What I’m saying is that I could very easily point at bad things about any country - it solves absolutely nothing.
The DNC isn’t entitled to Americans votes. They lost us and lost folks to the Republicans because they promised to fix the economy and are actually talking to people directly. The DNC is fucking dead to me.
I voted Kamala but I knew she didn’t stand a chance. I knew we were cooked when it was Biden/Kamala
Thank you for choosing Kamala even though you didn’t want to. We’re in this mess because too many people were the cartoon character somebody posted above.
Leftists can definitely be as stupid as rightists, and we’re seeing it in full technicolor in this thread. “Waaaahhh, there weren’t any good options. I should be able to click on something perfect!”
And if they really cared about what Bernie has to say they would have listened to him and voted Harris
Bernie is not a leftist
Oh so he’s a right winger?
Yes, all capitalists are
You realize all of you are capitalists right? Unless you live in the woods without a job or SIN and away from money, you’re part of the capitalist system. You may wish to be a green army jacket wearing commies but you’re not. Americans no longer have a sense of reality.
“All capitalists are right wingers!” You guys became what you criticized, every bit as reactionary, hateful and living in a black and white world as the trumpers. I personally have never experienced the level of racism and intolerance from the left that I saw this election. I’m native who has always been anti fascist, I never hung out with or been friends with right wing weirdos, yet I’ve been called a Nazi cause I don’t agree with everything you guys say. White kids calling people of color Nazis, that’s where the American left is at.
No I am not a capitalist, I am working class. Any member of the working class calling themselves a capitalist is delusional. I exist within a capitalist system and therefore I engage with it or starve. Should I starve for my ideals and nothing more?
When I say all capitalist are right wingers I mean that because the economic structure is the basis of seperation in real politics. The left is socialist and the right is capitalist simple as. The only reason liberals believe they are on the left is because the US jailed and executed communist and anarchists while dismantling all of their party structures both in the US and outside of the US. You believe you are on the left because the ruling class succeeded in eliminating their only real opposition domestically. The Democratic party is left of the Republican party but it is still firmly on the right and always has been.
I’m not some white kid calling you a nazi. I’m not stupid enough to believe that’s what you are. More than likely you are a person who sees all the problems in America and doesn’t fall for the reactionary minority scapegoating of Republicans but has never been given a material basis for understanding political economy. There has never been a party that gave you material reasons for why things are the way that they are and how they can be fixed in concrete terms. The best Democrats offer is vague statements about how things will get better but also how things are already totally great, scapegoating a foreign power, or pointing out how awful their opponent is.
There are reasons for why America is in the state it is in, these reasons are known and understood. There are solutions that we know will work to fix these problems with our society that we have seen empirically proof for. You can learn the reasons for these problems, how we can solve them, and why the solutions work. It is not “too complex” you do not need a degree for it. You must only read.
This is what got me started. You don’t need to watch it, but it changed my life and may help you understand my perspective. Yellow Parenti