• ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    trump may be the iceberg that sinks the ship but people must not forget that it was obama that steered it so expertly there.

    whatever he has done in his eight years to engender such deeply entrenched hatred within the populace – so much that even morons like mr. 47 can exploit it so readily – needs to be studied so that it can be avoided in the future.

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      15 days ago

      Obama didn’t start Fox news bro. Obama didn’t defund education and get rid of civics classes. Obama didn’t cut taxes on the billionaire class and corporations. Obama didn’t sell those same billionaires and conglomerates the major news outlets. The voting population in America only know what they’re told because they’re never taught to think critically. Look at the rise of disinformation regardless of political ideology. Look at the rise in scams.

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        you’re mixing up trump’s eventual misdeeds with the fact that the usa has undergone a massive transformation towards the right under the eight years of obama.

        i’m talking about the seeds which were sown, you’re talking about the harvest which followed. these are two separate things.

        each of your assertions have flourished under the manure of the obama tenure – even if they didn’t happen during his presidency.

        but, sure. live in denial and give him a pass. just don’t moan when history repeats itself. as a non-american, it’s no skin off my back.

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          So Reagan’s two terms and his VPs term had nothing to do with it? The creation of the CNN 24 hour news cycle and the need to fill it had nothing to do with it? Decades of attacking public school budgets had nothing to do with that? Why the focus on Obama? These problems started 30 years before he was elected.

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          14 days ago

          Counter-point: the biggest thing Obama did to enrage the right was dare to be a successful black man. They’re the ones with the issue, man.