Client-side anti-cheat is effectively pointless in the long run. The software is running on a machine the devs do not control, and ultimately that means it cannot be trusted. They should be working harder on server-side detection, but that requires work not just buying a product and dusting your hands off…
The best “server-side” anti cheat mechanisms online is streaming the game, and I am sure that eventually some talented developers are able to even write some aim bot (or more) for that.
Competitive games need a fully controlled environment. Doing it online with random unknown people should not be taken as serious as they currently do.
Alot about video games is not standardized. To be competitive all players should have the same hardware, internet connection, etc. So that it is actually individual skill that is measured, not just the size of players wallet.
But even then, developing skill takes alot of practice and time, which also, in our current system, can be converted into money. There just is no fair competition here anyway. Still many people believe in meritocracies…
about the time games move to stream only is when I stop buying games. I do not need that network saturation and latency.
Streaming the game is never gonna be viable for me because of where I live, even if I wanted it, and I very much don’t. But then I don’t care for the kind of competitive games where what hardware you run on makes that much difference, anyway.
I don’t think we need “the best”. Just to be able to detect and ban the egregious offenders would be enough.
I will say we agree on one thing; competitive games should not be taken as seriously as they are. But then I’m of the controversial opinion that esports made gaming worse.
Server authoritative multiplayer system (server only takes player inputs and spits out results, making editing data impossible), with a lag prediction system clientside, works wonders. Aimbotting will always exist, but detection should be server side.
Linux is just a source of exploits and cheats and nothing more, the developer said
Sure, and so is Windows. Is the difference then who will accept draconian anti-cheat?
Assuming that there really is significant cheating on Linux clients, this can just be the company saying that there are not enough users to make development of more robust anti-cheat cost effective.
This is basically the same argument that software and hardware vendors have used for decades for why they won’t support Linux
My favourite from the old days was “we stopped/don’t support/only support Ubuntu Linux because customer support is too tough across different systems”.
Yeah. I’m not sure that this has changed much.
I suspect that was a large part of what drove the excitement for something like Valve’s Proton. It was supposed to make it easier for studios to make games available across platforms, because they would. “just work” without having to put special effort in.
This sounds like the same sort of “We found out that the cost is not actually 0, and we want out. We can’t say that though, so it’s your fault”
bullshit. there will be zero decrease in cheating. I highly doubt any paid cheat devs offer linux support either.
True, there will not be a significant decrease in cheating. The main savings will be in cost to the company by dropping support for a release pipeline.
Anyone wanna just get some games crowd sourced and developed for Linux exclusively just to fire back at the people who think it’s a good argument to point at software developed by anti Linux companies?
Eh, I think it would be better to just make a really good, competitive game that supports Linux day 1. Show these devs that you can support Linux and have a decent player experience wrt anti-cheat.
Yeah, and entirely without windows!
Nah, support Windows as well, otherwise the game will likely flop. It needs to be pretty successful so it actually gets noticed, and if people are interested in Linux, they’ll be able to switch w/o giving up that game.
Naw, what I’ll do is target the Steam Deck people like myself with a 2v2 moba kind of game where cheating would have to be really elegant to be successful!
