Summary: Author Michael Wolff alleges that Jeffrey Epstein showed him photos of Donald Trump with topless young women at Epstein’s Palm Beach home. Trump’s campaign has denied the claims, calling Wolff a “disgraced” writer. Wolff also expressed skepticism about Epstein’s death, suggesting it was implausible but also questioning the possibility of a cover-up.

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    20 days ago

    Not that I support the guy at all, but you lot really need to stop saying “this is definite” and “it is fact” every time there’s an allegation made about something you don’t like. Not just Trump; anything. Unless you are one, y’all need to save that kind of dumb shit for dumb people, even if you like what you’re hearing.

    Take Trump out of it for a second. This is literally a scenario of…

    "A guy says a dead guy did a thing that makes another guy look bad, right before a big event involving that other guy "

    Could be true. Could be not true. It’s hardly the kind of information that should be landing a half-competent mind onto a decision.

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      Well, I’ll just add that even if this is true it will sway nobody.

      Trump is a rapist caught on tape bragging about how easy it is to assault women. Very few Trump supporters are unaware of this fact and yet that are still Trump supporters.

      That he’s assaulted women simply isn’t newsworthy for his fascist followers. He’s hurting the right people and that’s all that matters to them.

      Sadly, about the only thing he could do to lose support would be to insult his followers or the USA. They’ll forgive him for pretty much anything else, including rape and murder.

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      20 days ago

      Thank you for being a wise thoughtful person, im canadian so it doesn’t matter how I feel, just wanted tonsay it’s nice to see some civility here

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      19 days ago

      Duur let’s remove the statement from the context to prove I am not afraid to use logic to defend a pedophile. You do understand how fucking tone death this is.

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        You didn’t seem to understand that workout proof we can’t accuse trump, even tho he is a horrible piece of shit that deserves to rot in jail. As much as I’d love to see him get arrested and imprisoned, we cannot simply take someone’s word that someone else did those horrible things, otherwise trump would have already made all of his enemies go to jail with his stupid bullshit accusations. I also think that trump very very likely did those things, but for the justice system we need proof, and someone saying that someone else did something isn’t proof, it’s hearsay and not taken as evidence by law

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          19 days ago

          Oh sure its the law, logic, or whatever fucked up reason you have in your head. I just see a pedophile defender. Pick a different hill unless, you know, birds of a feather…

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            Doomsidee has sent me a video in which they are obviously molesting a child, I won’t share it but they def did it and you should believe me 100%!!

            I’ll repeat my stance towards trump in a more clear language so you understand: I want trump in jail for his crimes, including his sexual crimes.

            The issue here is that we need actual evidence, proof that he did that crime to be able to accuse him, or else this same comment is proof enough that you are a rapist, and we don’t want that, what we want is trump in jail, not to give him or others like him the power to put anyone they want in jail. Do you remember what the right wingers keep shouting about trans people, immigrants and everyone else they disagree with? If we do what you want with trump what is stopping them from being able to do the same with us?

            I’ll say once more to try and get it though you, I want trump in jail for his many many maaaaaaaaany crimes INCLUDING AND ESPECIALLY for his sexual crimes, but we need to do it following the law, which needs actual proof, not just hearsay.

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              Argarath dies on the hill for defending pedophiles because “logic”.

              It was strange that Argarath choose this fate but some people can’t help themselves. That is why I suggest you donate to NALRWCHDOTHFP today

              The National Association of Logical Retards Who Can’t Help Dying On The Hill For Pedophiles works with individuals like Argarath everyday to prevent this tragic mistake.

              NALRWCHDOTHFP helps these individuals see that even if they are right, they shouldn’t be commenting an articles about pedophiles. After all, you can be right and you can be dead right.

              Music plays in memory of Argarath.

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    So fucking what? I’m sure lots of guys have had half naked women sitting on their lap at one point during their life.

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      As much as I dislike trump I have to say most men I know have been to a strip club and this isn’t something significant without more to the story.

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    19 days ago

    I’ll just leave this here

    And it also must be mentioned that the case was dropped due to some very definitely extralegal threats and strong-arming of the victim and her family.

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