• pivot_root@lemmy.world
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    I get grim satisfaction from asserting my knowledge of theory against the smug liberals.

    That checks out. Now if only the tankies would have the collective spine to admit that their countries of choice are capitalist-flavored imperialism under the self-proclaimed veneer of communism.

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      That requires them admitting communism doesn’t really exist in the modern world. Quite scary for them.

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        It is religious or something with them. Paradise exists on Earth, for real, but they won’t travel there. Like ancient polytheists who didn’t bother to climb up Mount Olympus for a peek.

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          I mean there’s Vietnam, Cuba and Laos. These are all communist systems.

          They don’t really care about them tho

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    There’s undoubtedly at least a bit of projection there, but I think more what it is is just that tankies are driven almost entirely by righteous indignation, and they’ll take pretty much any chance they get to indulge in it. They don’t really stop and think about things - they just see something that could serve as a basis for a nice, satisfying righteously indignant screed and off they go.

    And that leaves them susceptible to, among other things, hypocrisy.

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    The Chinese flag is also pretty funny. Silly Oblivion NPC, don’t you know China is hypercapitalistic?

    By the nine divines!

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    Cowbee is the most patient and cordial person about discussing theory on Lemmy. They’re probably the person most able to make that comment without hypocrisy or irony.

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      They’re still kindof a nut? They patiently told me that unmarked vans snatching up BLM protestors and Donald urging use of the army against voters was the exact same as Palestine protestors deliberately getting themselves arrested as civil disobedience by trespassing.

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        Yeah, I can’t disagree they’re kind of a nut. You really have to be to continually discuss theory on social media.

        Though I read that discussion as it happened and it’s still currently up. They specifically said they weren’t the same, but had similarities in the purposes they serve. Both ya’ll kinda just spun your wheels for like a dozen comments afterwards over the means but the point was on the ends.

        Which serves as further evidence of the above, so to speak.

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          Yeah, I just gave up, realizing it wasn’t productive at all. Those similarities are too weak to be a point in what (I thought) we were discussing. They’re not saying “both sides are leading to fascism” but “both sides are leading to fascism equally quickly,” come on.

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            Yeah their calculus is much more binary to the idea where fascism will march unabated unless leftism gains an actual foothold in American culture.

            That’s usually the chief perpetual disagreement I see when the American president election comes up. And yeah those arguments are usually more vibe checks than debates.

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      I am immensely curious as to what sort of theory can legitimately justify celebrating rape, denying genocides and glorifying violence.

      I’d like to wager @PugJesus@lemmy.world as more patient.