• whotookkarl@lemmy.world
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    “The last thing I would do is trust a computer program,” says the owner of a car company developing self driving & rocket company building automation into rocket launches.

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      not to mention brain chips. Remember, every accusation is a confession with the MAGA crowd. I bet we’d find a few gems in the code for tesla and twitter now

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      That’s why you’re supposed to have paper backups. And you audit things.

      Edit: I think you could even get a real time audit and still be electronic with backups

      1. You go to machine and vote
      2. It prints off a copy of what you voted and records it (this is the primary vote count)
      3. You verify the paper ballot print off and take it to a second area to be recorded and kept for audits.
      4. Put ballot in second machine which validates and counts the vote and externally shows a counter increase on the machine for votes counted (not who) so you also know this machine counted it for a total.

      So now you have the proper vote tallies from 1. The audit of the correct amount of total records from 4. If there’s any cause for concern or for auditing, you can manually count the paper ballots.

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      Well, actually that’s correct, which is why there are various approaches to make it possible to trust an output of a computer program, verify it against that of other such computer programs, and so on.

      But in my opinion the whole idea of voting sucks. It’s less democratic than sortition. With sortition minority positions are disadvantaged, but with most systems involving vote they are absolutely trumped (pun intended, though saying “harrised” would not be as far as I’d like).

      Republics which used sortition have historically existed for very long spans of time. In Antiquity, in Middle Ages, during Renaissance. It’s harder to cheat with. Which also means it’s harder to sow distrust in.

      And, well, humans are superstitious creatures and results of sortition are much more similar to how they see divine will.

      Sortition is also more honest, it doesn’t abuse the human instinct of allowing politicians more than their rightful mandate when elected by a majority vote. When the reason a person holds some position is because a of a lucky die, the society looks at them more critically and they themselves know they won’t enter that river for a second time.

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      To be fair, I wouldn’t trust a computer program for voting either, but I would trust and ride in an autonomously landing rocket.

      Which is why I much prefer the scantron type fill in the bubble ballots, you get a full digital count with an easily cross referenced ballot.

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    Didn’t Dominion already win at least one defamation lawsuit because some jackass was spewing these lies? Gonna love seeing Elmo have to pay up, just a shame it won’t cost him enough to make him shut the fuck up.

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    Friendly reminder that an Immigrant African American Welfare Queen, with numerous baby mommas and children he don’t even talk to, is a foreign actor attempting to sway American Elections by spreading fake news. Truly the enemy within that needs to be addressed, there is a reason he travels with as many as 20 bodyguards just to touch grass Source.

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      “The probability that a homicidal maniac will try to kill you is proportionate to how many homicidal maniacs hear your name,” he said. “So they hear my name a lot — I’m like, ‘OK, I’m on the list,’ you know.”

      this makes it sound like high profile assassinations are caused by a bunch of “maniacs” pulling names out of hats

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        Considering the first attempt on Trump’s life, and I hate to admit it, but he’s not that far off. I can’t tell you how large of a quantity it is, but trump sure riled up a bunch of mentally ill people who may or may not have a good grasp of their mental stability.

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          If the assassins weren’t deranged, they would choose their targets better. If you want to effect political change through assassination, you don’t target the puppet. You target the person controlling the puppet.

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    “The last thing I would do is trust a computer program”

    What a weird thing to say from someone that sells a car he says will eventually drive itself.

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    Hey look! The people who are cheating our election system are warning us about cheaters in our election!