• Dasus@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Youre assuming there’s no use in using intoxicants, but there very much are. Arguably the most important, in terms of larger humanity.

    Those “deeply grained” attitudes are the product of 20th century propaganda.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Binge

    In WWI it was completely normal to send your son/friend a package of morphine, cocaine and syringes.

    And what I’m talking about is “mind-expanding” substances.

    Alcohol literally depresses neural activity and makes it so you lose your coordination and eventually get sedated. It’s the most “lazy” substance there is, yet none of these “deeply ingrained” attitudes concern it?

    So no.

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      2 months ago

      I don’t think there is a correct answer to the question you are posing. You asked for people’s opinions and I gave you mine.

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        And I showed you how it obviously can’t be that. Come up with a new explanation.

        Not fucking with you, if you could genuinely think of another, I’d be pleased.

        There is a correct answer. It’s the inordinate amounts of drug propaganda, and people’s tendency to self-reinforce and perpetuate that propaganda.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ehrlichman#Drug_war_quote

        “You want to know what this was really all about?” he asked with the bluntness of a man who, after public disgrace and a stretch in federal prison, had little left to protect. “The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

        — John Erlichman, Nixon’s “right hand” man

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            2 months ago

            Do you know what “opinion” means?

            Facts are distinct from opinions. Good opinions are based on facts, though.

            Like mine.

            Which I just proved to you, that the drug propaganda was purposeful political lies.

            Yet you still won’t believe it. Why? What is it in you that’s so deeply ingrained that you can’t even as a thought experiment question something which was literally programmed into you?

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                2 months ago

                And now you get defensive when I point out it’s not my opinion, but facts supported by evidence.

                This is exactly what I mean. You’d rather chew your own leg off than answer my question from the previous comment. That’s how strong the propaganda is, and I don’t know why it affects you so much.