• RubberDuck@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I don’t understand why discord is so popular for communities. There is 0 permanence, and google does not index it so not even organic growth.

    Discord is a black hole of knowledge except for the ai training companies.

  • 4am@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    Hey guys not to be a downer but like…what DO we do when a federated instance goes down and takes all its content with it?

    • Ibuthyr@discuss.tchncs.de
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      5 months ago

      So this pretty much happened with feddit.de

      The admin took off for a business trip and his backup forgot the password and locked himself out. Now the admin seems to have vanished and the server shit itself, making all previously posted pictures unavailable.

      The solution is that a bunch of lemmings are forming a “Verein” (Kind of Like a club I suppose?) and will build an entirely new German instance.

      So, it’s not pretty.

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        5 months ago

        If someone hasn’t written a software package to do so already, it’s probably possible to write one to dump and clone all the comments and posts on a server.

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          5 months ago

          The comments fortunately are still there, but the images are all gone. They had some trouble that was image-related which led to the server collapsing at some stage. I can’t recall the specifics unfortunately.

  • CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Reddit does shitty stuff, but at least I’m able to find stuff on there. Why Discord took off as a medium to replace forums is beyond me. It’s not easily searchable, and search engines can’t index it. If people aren’t fastidious about replying to messages they’re responding to, it’s just a nonsense stream of consciousness from dozens of people.

    That being said, I hate the formatting of most forums. Reddit and Lemmy’s comment nesting is excellent. It’s very easy to follow conversations.

  • mr_robot@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I’m gonna keep posting on Lemmy and hope that helps. Our collective communities should not be in the hands of mega corporations.

  • ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I advocate for two things, oddly things I never would have in earlier internet:

    • Paid forums. A one time payment for registration.

    • Strict rules and quick bans. But allow offenders to buy back in. Permaban for serious offenses. .

    Why? Because if it costs you $10 or 15 to re-activate after screwing around, you’re much more likely to read the room and not fuck around too much with others. It encourages users to point out bad behavior, and mods to act decisively. If the mods or management totally suck, then it can go sour, but that’s true of any community.

    In this case though it can at least partially help to offset costs from shitty users, and keep bots at bay by making them cost a registration fee.

    I don’t love it as a “solution”, but when Facebook was small, people behaved better. But now people post the most unhinged shit ever under their full legal name, so no amount of daylight is going to put the proverbial trolls back in their cages. Just gotta lock them out of civil spaces.

    You wanna talk about Honda engine tuning here with us? Don’t be a fucking asshole, or get banned.

    You wanna chat with fans of 50s cinema and the rise of modern camera film technique? Do it without brining up woke/trump/biden/Covid or get out.

    I like that we have free stuff like lemmy and reddit for now, but bots are getting far, far worse.