"Progressives should not make the same mistake that Ernst Thälmann made in 1932. The leader of the German Communist Party, Thälmann saw mainstream liberals as his enemies, and so the center and left never joined forces against the Nazis. Thälmann famously said that ‘some Nazi trees must not be allowed to overshadow a forest’ of social democrats, whom he sneeringly called ‘social fascists.’

After Adolf Hitler gained power in 1933, Thälmann was arrested. He was shot on Hitler’s orders in Buchenwald concentration camp in 1944."

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    I feel like we need something like the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact that is aiming to eliminate the electoral college, but for Ranked Choice.

    Passing this federally is too hard. We need do to this state by state.

    Until I can vote for a third party with RCV, then I might as well be saying that I have zero preference about the GOP and DNC options on the table.

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      Rightwing Dems that get to the primary off corporate donors in the primary will never let RCC take over

      The only reason they win in generals is the only other option is Republicans.

      To fix anything on the federal level we need the Dem party onboard and all on the same page, then heavy majorities, then fix the system

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        I’d argue that you don’t need it in every state. You just need it in enough states to make a 3rd party candidate viable.

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      Problem is that RCV will only have a chance in deep blue states, and all it would accomplish is reducing the blue representation in congress.

      To put it bluntly, all it would accomplish is more in fighting and contributing to the reputation that Dems are ineffective. Except, it would be the “blue aligned coalition” instead of “Dems”

      The only real path to making this change is to give Dems a super majority so they can amend the constitution.

      And, well, the minority of Red voters have a majority of power thanks to the electoral college, so a super majority is absolutely impossible for the foreseeable future.

      Edit - it’d also cause disruptions in States that don’t adopt RCV, as “progressives” protest vote 3rd party and sandbag the Dems