First responder here. The DNR doesn’t mean a damn thing until it is literally in your hands. Until that time you respond as though there is no DNR. If you’re wrong and they did have one but just didn’t have it on hand then you accidentally save someones life, you’re still legally in the clear, and I guess they can just die sometime later. But if the DNR turns out not to be real/legitimate and you didn’t act just because you were told there was one then you just killed someone and you’re completly fucked.
If you have a family member that has a DNR then be damn sure everyone knows where that thing is because unless you have it physically there when they are dieing then it doesn’t mean anything.
Of course in places like nursing homes there is a different procedure. They know who has one on file and they will usually tell dispatch about it before the ambulance is even sent. But if it happens just in your home or someplace then the ambulance crew can’t just take your word for it; they need the document in hand.
The DNR doesn’t mean a damn thing until it is literally in your hands.
How does the DNR get into the first responder’s hand in practice? Do you get an emergency call and drive there as fast as you can through red lights with your siren on only to be greeted by a relative that made the call handing you the DNR document?
But if the DNR turns out not to be real/legitimate
Are you responsible for validating its legitimacy while in the field, when every second counts?
For the first question. The responders will act exactly as if there is no DNR until you give it to them. Yes, that sometimes means wasted effort but it’s better than the alternative.
For your second question, by legitimate I basically just mean that it’s not written in crayon on a piece of notebook paper or something. Generally speaking the forms are pretty standard and issued by the healthcare provider. Generally you’re just looking for a physicians signature and a date. Some states also allow DNR medical jewelry. The exact specifics on the DNR do vary a lot based on state and county so the local responders will know what they need for their area. As far as every second counting goes, that’s why you have a whole ambulance crew.
Does it count if tattooed on their chest?
Depends on the state and county. I’m sure some county somewhere allows that. Medical jewelry is also allowed for a DNR in some states.
“I SAVED YOUR LIFE !”
“You ruined my death”
Incredible
I was gonna call this cap because CPR that long after collapse has infinitesimally small odds, but I looked it up and turns out I’m wrong. CPR anyone you see down!
My understanding was always that CPR isn’t meant to revive someone its meant to keep them viable for revival by people with better training/equipment.
Only a fifth of people survive a heart attack?!
Survival rates of a heart attack are upwards of 90% from what I can find online. There are certain types where the survival rate for that type alone is much lower though.
Shit. Which thing on the Internet we’ve read, do we believe?
In cancer world this is why patients are instructed to print in large letters “AMBULANCE” on an envelope pasted to their fridge. It informs anyone coming to their house to not resuscitate . So likewise it Should be on neighbour to inform everyone of his DNR before calling a lawyer or laying any blame. You have no ability to see his chart as a bystander. He should own that. Nothing was stopping him from going around and informing his neighbours to not try to resuscitate if he expected any less. And that is on him.
Leave a crate of vodka on his porch
Never help anyone ever.
Man, fuck all the heroes in this thread.
I’d 100% fuck with some neighbor asshole who resuscitated me into a life with a whole rack of broken ribs on top of all the other problems
It’s on you for not telling anyone your intentions. Your decision. Your responsibility to make sure it’s adhered to. So start with informing people. Don’t get shocked that no one understands what you want without you telling them first. Own yourself.
And how, precisely, am I supposed to tell random fucking jackoffs like in the story?
None of you fucks even know what a DNR is, means, what it looks like, and not a single one of you cunts could be expected to uphold it even if you were told.
You don’t get a special bracelet. This isn’t the ‘life alert’ infomercial. Tattoos mean absolutely nothing to medical professionals.
You literally have to have a DNR on file, active, in your county of residence, and they have to look it up. Which will not happen until you’re already admitted.
And if you get sent to a hospital in a different county? Because you’re visiting family or something? You’re fucked. You’re on a machine, keeping you alive. As long as your shitty relatives feel like it.
I have no desire to die incoherent in a hospital with no concept of what’s going on other than everything is uncomfortable. And with the united state’s version of healthcare, I will have to make sure I die somewhere else.
When I die, it isn’t fucking about you
They aren’t random people. This was a neighbour. Tell your neighbours. They are right fucking there. Frankly you are the person you should be most mad at for being in your own way for this one. failing to not only get to know who Lives around you but also tell someone who’s not even a mile away from you you absolute Psychopath. That’s on you. You’re a fucking grown up. That’s entirely on you. Slip on your big person pants and get to work at owning your decisions by TELLING PEOPLE. Stop just sitting on what you feel is ‘valued information’ the moment you get it. They aren’t fucking psychics.
Oh no, broken ribs. Those famously can never be healed
How many comorbidities do you have
Fuck that guy
