• Frank Ring@lemmy.world
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    I think the best solution is a healthy balance of socialism and capitalism.

    Extremes always tend to be dangerous.

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      5 months ago

      “I think we need a balance between the system that wants to oppress workers to maximise profit, and the system which wants workers to control their own lives”

    • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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      I think the best solution is a healthy balance of socialism and capitalism.

      Why?

      Extremes always tend to be dangerous.

      WHY?

      • Frank Ring@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        Too much socialism encourage laziness, incompetence and poverty.

        Too much capitalism encourage inequity, exploitation and consumerism.

        I think both socialism and capitalism have their own pros and cons. But both are necessary.

        • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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          Too much socialism encourage laziness, incompetence and poverty.

          Does it? Says who? The Chicago school of economics?

          Too much capitalism encourage inequity, exploitation and consumerism.

          All Capitalism.

          What good does Capitalism do?

            • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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              You’re very wrong, and failed to address any of my arguments or back your own claims up, it’s jusy vibes and mysticism.

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                I didn’t fail to address any argument.

                If you actually worked at least once in your life, you would understand the value of working, making money, competency and being useful to society.

                I think you’re coping because you’re useless and incompetent. You’re using socialism as an escape mechanism.

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                  You clearly have a misconception of what socialism is. Socialism does not mean sit around and collect benefits from the government. It means that workers (yes, people who WORK) own the means of production, rather than the do-nothing capitalist class which makes money parasitically from simply owning things.

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                    On a fundamental level, socialism encourages it. And you, you seem to have a misconception of what capitalism is and how money works.

                    Yes, the best and most effective way to make money is by owning things and hiring people, and letting them work for you. I own a business myself.

                    You call it ‘parasite’ and that can be true to an extent when it turns evil and only profit-driven.

                    If you choose to be a normal wage worker that doesn’t own anything, then yeah, capitalism is probably not for you. You’ll be stuck in an endless rat race and feel like a slave all your life.

                    My advice is to stop trading your time for money and start owning things that generate money for you.

                    That’s why I think a healthy balance of both socialism and capitalism is optimal.

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                  I have worked, and continue to work. I understand how my labor is exploited by the bourgeois class and I do not recieve the bulk of the Value I create. I suggest reading Wage Labor and Capital and Value, Price and Profit.

                  I am certainly not the absolute most competent worker who ever lived, but I am definitely far more competent than the parasites exploiting me without lifting a finger.

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      I think the best solution is a healthy balance of kindergartens and child labour factories.

      Extremes always tend to be dangerous.