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        Yeah

        I could maybe see it, if all you know otherwise is C++, and your experience with other languages is trying to make python / go / node / whatever work well on a Windows machine without well-working tooling, and then you finally try C# and it’s like oh shit, it’s not filling up my mouth with feces every time I want to iterate over a dictionary or need memory management, this is a big improvement, I like it

        But, VSCode has good support for those other languages now anyway

        And, the bigger question, who the fuck are all these people upvoting this

        Like what do you guys do all day? Or is this some subtle super sophisticated joke I am not understanding, or do you just like the man’s chin? Or do you just not program and you upvote programming things out of general excitement about the idea of doing programming?

        Who in the fuck is this excited about C# of all the things in the world to get excited about?

        I’m just baffled in general by it

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            Yeah. That’s what I was saying - it is clearly superior to C++ and probably to Java but those are like the worst two languages in the meta. It’s like hey this is a clear improvement over what we were doing 40 years ago that’s acknowledged by everyone has aged poorly.

            Idk man, I’m not trying to be bigoted about it just saying my experience is more pleasant with a few other languages available outside of that grouping.

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              It very much depends on what you’re trying to do. C# is pretty great for developing APIs, especially in an enterprise environment involving a lot of business logic. I don’t have much of an opinion on Django as I haven’t spent enough time looking into it, but I have looked at enough Node.js code to know I don’t prefer it for most of the projects I’ve been involved in.
              My Python experience is largely based in working with things like Raspberry Pis, and relatively simple jobs where Python made the job pretty easy. I don’t know enough experience with larger Python projects to have a feel for what good architecture in a complex application looks like.
              With C#, I can go into a large application using good practices and quickly navigate the code and be productive.

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    pervasive unchecked nullability

    Framework management is hell, fat binaries inconvenient and not default

    No option monad in the standard lib

    Cross version dependencies simply don’t work in some contexts

    Compiler output only marginally better than working with c++

    At least it doesn’t have Gradle.

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    Always seems like you have to reinvent the wheel in .NET and I’m missing something. Is there a nice set of ready to go libraries like Spring Boot?

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        Microsoft tried to lock a development feature behind a paywall by introducing an artificial dependency on Visual Studio.

        This also happened to occur right around the time there were also licensing and hosting issues around open source libraries. The manipulation of the .NET foundation was the really concerning part. Made it clear that MS still doesn’t give a damn about the wider community using their language.

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    IMO C# is at the point where Java can probably just die. I don’t see a point in keeping Java when C# is a viable option in many use cases.

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      I don’t think this line of reasoning is strictly speaking correct, but assuming it was, then I think it would follow that Kotlin exists and as such C# does not need to be kept around.

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      I’m sure Microsoft will be happy to know their EEE strategy is finally paying off, only two decades late.

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        It’s attitudes like this that made me choose C# as the language I wanted to use professionally after graduation.

        Having grown up in the Slashdot era where people would be childish, post about Micro$oft, and parrot EEE, all while the .NET Foundation consistently put out great tooling with a mature community that actively wanted to help you learn the language/framework, the choice was simple.