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One, I’m not even voting for Jill Stein. Two, it’s against this community’s guidelines and rules to call me a troll. Please stay civil if you’d like to engage in conversation with me. Thank you!
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I’m sure your not voting for Jill Stein
Correct. Though I support her efforts, I’ve shifted my support to Rachele Fruit of the Socialist Workers Party, who aligns more closely with my socialist convictions.
- all you post are anti-Democrat posts.
Nope. Weird that you said that without actually looking at my post history. Let me help you: https://lemmy.world/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts
Isn’t it funny how quick you are to question my citizenship and motives while conveniently ignoring the fact that I’ve been upfront about my stance?
Sounds like you’ve got your own agenda to protect the duopoly.
Are you backing the GOP from the shadows, desperately trying to maintain the status quo while I’m out here fighting for real change?
What’s the goal for Jill Stein? Climate change initiatives? Liberals are fighting in the trenches to make change while she’s giving lipservice.
Policy making isn’t easy, democracy is slow. Holding the Democratic Party hostage to force them to do something they already want just hurts the cause.
Her goal is to advance Putin’s interests, of course. OP knows this. He’s just fucking about because that’s his job.
How is that my “job”? I didn’t write the article. You know that, right?
Your reading comprehension is quite poor, Ivan.
It’s actually Karl, thanks.
I actually lean more socialist than green, but I think the goal for Jill Stein is to push for more urgent and comprehensive action on issues like climate change, healthcare, and social justice—things that many feel aren’t being addressed quickly or effectively enough by the Democratic Party.
I agree that policy-making is slow and democracy can be messy, supporting third-party candidates is about pushing the conversation further and holding all parties accountable to the people.
The duopoly has had countless chances with both Democrats and Republicans taking turns in power, yet they haven’t made the necessary changes. It’s not about hurting the cause; it’s about ending the cycle of inaction and ensuring the issues we care about don’t get sidelined.
Well, Republicans are actively opposed to those things. And Democrats need enough support to enact those things.
It’s frustrating for Dems too. And it’s more frustrating when people like Jill Stein make it harder. She should join the party instead of fighting it. But I guess this makes her feel better. She can dislike the system, but things are going to get worse if Republicans win. Just like things got worse in 2016.
It’s easy to see why it’s frustrating, but frustration isn’t a reason to surrender to a broken system.
Jill Stein, like many of us, refuses to be another cog in a machine that perpetuates inequality and injustice. Joining a party that continually lets down the very people it claims to represent isn’t the solution—it’s the problem.
Things got worse in 2016 because the Democrats failed to inspire real change, and repeating the same failed strategy won’t protect us from the Republicans or bring about the progress we desperately need.
Frustration isn’t a reason to give in to a fantasy.
You want a party that will support those initiatives? You have one. It’s the Democratic Party. If they don’t have enough support now to get that shit done, they’re definitely not going to when Republicans take over.
You may not like it, but Dems (specifically liberals and progressives) need more power to enact real change. If you’re working against that, you’re working against your own goals to make yourself feel better.
The Democratic Party has had its chances, time and time again, and what do we have to show for it? More of the same—a system that props up the wealthy, ignores the working class, and perpetuates endless wars.
If you think more power to the Democrats is the answer, you’re clinging to a fantasy of your own.
Real change doesn’t come from begging the duopoly for scraps; it comes from breaking their stranglehold and fighting for a system that truly represents the people.
The duopoly does represent the people. People suck sometimes. The Democratic Party is the method for people like her to push change. The Democratic Party gives her cause MORE power by consolidating efforts
If there was overwhelming support, even just among liberals, Bernie would have won in 2016 or 2020.
The duopoly only represents the people as long as it keeps them divided and powerless. Consolidating efforts under the Democratic Party has proven time and again to dilute true progressive change, not empower it.
If there was overwhelming support for the establishment, Bernie wouldn’t have faced the massive resistance from within his own party that he did in 2016 and 2020.
And for the record, I liked Bernie and was prepared to vote for him.
That’s the plan, of course.
As long as the duopoly is scared and angry, then an impact is being made.
Seems to me the useful idiots are the ones who are scared and angry.
Well, I certainly agree that there are many idiots who are scared and angry. Some useful. Some not.
He’s talking about you, dingus.
He’s talking about you, dingus.
Getting personal and directly calling people names is against the civility rule of this sub. Rule number 3. Please keep your comments civil, so that we can keep this community awesome.
Relax. It’s not even an insult.
Oh so you totally meant it as a compliment then? Totally not belitting me or my comments, right? You were just being friendly. Right?
Right?!
OP ain’t beating the allegations with this thread… Never seen so much blue in the replies. Seems their primary goal is baiting people into bans. Major hallway monitor energy.
Yes, it does seem clear that there are folks here just trying to bait me, but I’m not biting. I’ll keep standing up for what I believe in, even if it’s unpopular. :)
I feel like you’ve got a lot in common with Terrence Howard. Confidence galore without the basic math skills to know you’re objectively misguided. Insulting people doesn’t change any minds, but neither does coddling them, pretending they have a point.
nsulting people doesn’t change any minds, but neither does coddling them, pretending they have a point.
Are you implying that I have insulted someone? If so, please let me know or show me a sample. I, on the other hand, get insulted and called names on here daily. But I haven’t called anyone names. So I’m not sure what you mean.
It was a description of how calling you names won’t change your mind, but neither does pretending that you have a point. You’ve clearly turtled up because people insult you on here, but consider how else someone is supposed to get through to you when the answer of why you’re wrong is incredibly simple? You’re completely walled off from reality.
You’ve clearly turtled up because people insult you on here
Nah, I don’t mind the insults, but it was really just the same comments and insults over and over with many of the same people. So those people know my reasoning by now.
Funny you mention the insults tho, because when I mention I get insulted on here, I get lots of comments and variations of, “Oh you are just crying victim. No one is insulting you.” Um…
I mean, how many responses can I possibly have for “So you want Trump to win! Admit it!” or “You’re not even American, you’re russian. Admit it!!” lol Tho to be honest, as much as I argue with those guys, you’d think they’d realize that if I wanted Trump to win, I’d happily admit it on here. That would drive them crazy!
And why do I get all this hate? Because I post an article—just an article—from widely-read sites that get way more traffic than Lemmy. I didn’t write it, edit it, or produce it. Yet suddenly, I’m labeled a Trump supporter. Think about that logic for a second. Think about the level of censorship people are pushing for here. They don’t want certain news articles to be seen. Seriously, let that sink in.
You’re completely walled off from reality.
Why? Because i am still voting for third party?! I mean, it’s not really that deep. I’m voting for my values, and I’m not scared of Trump. I won’t vote out of fear. As I said many times, I respect and support your right to vote how you wish. I deserve that same respect.
Half of the entire country is not voting for Harris. Does that mean that every single one of them is “walled off from reality”? Is every single person that’s not voting for Harris a fascist?! Is every single person that’s not voting for Harris just clueless? All those millions of people are just ignorant and insane?
Nearly all of my critics here on Lemmy would answer “yes” to those questions. The Democrats on this platform have become just as self-righteous, if not more so, than the very Republicans they accuse of the same behavior.
So no, I’m not “walled off from reality” and I’m not Terrance Howard. I simply am voting for who I want to, and not voting for how I don’t want to. Yes, it’s really that simple. I don’t like Harris. I don’t like Trump. So I’m not voting for either one of them. I don’t care how ignorant you think I am or walled from reality I am, etc.
I’ve been alive for longer than most Lemmys have been able to vote. I’ve seen what can be done, and what ISN’T being done. By both parties. And guess what? So have many others.
You all can keep voting out of fear. It’s totally within your rights. I won’t.
“I’m voting for my values, and I’m not scared of Trump. I won’t vote out of fear.” This is the epitome of privilege, and why people dislike you. I think that warrants more introspection.
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Do other people have things to fear about his idealogy? How precisely do you suggest that they deal with that risk? If you don’t fear him and what he’ll do to you, and you don’t care what he’ll do to other people who don’t deserve it enough to lift a finger, or put your purity politics aside, then you are selfish and idiologically unfit for the 2 party system that we currently live in. A based person with your ideals would vote for what’s better based on the system we have rather than the system they want, and then lobby, call, donate, and canvas for system that they want.
So we arrive at two options, either you are a sociopath who doesn’t understand why letting bad things happen to other people is bad, or you’re incredibly uninformed about the ramnifications of your actions whether purposefully or unintentionally… or you’re an AI bot wasting everyone’s time being fed prompts by some shithead Jimmy Dore type. It doesn’t really matter because the explanation has been given to you dozens of times and you some how read enough to respond to it all and then completely miss the point about other people being important, not just yourself. Anti-social bellyaching isn’t going to get you any praise online in largely progressive circles.
This is the epitome of privilege, and why people dislike you
Because I don’t live my life in fear?!
either you are a sociopath
You realize almost half of the country is voting for him, right? Are they ALL sociopaths?!
Anti-social bellyaching isn’t going to get you any praise online in largely progressive circles.
I’m not anti-social, I actually have a very full life. And I’m not looking for praise online. Dude, i posted a news article. I didn’t write it. So do you think this community should censor/remove articles that are about third parties?! If so, message the mods.
All Harris needs to do is show just one lousy photon of daylight between her and Biden on this. She won’t. Netanyahu dictates US foreign policy.
How do we interfere in Israeli elections? It seems that the easiest way to bring about change in the US is to change our politicians’ owners.
Oh, great. So taking that all the way through, our punishment shall be the destruction of the US by the psychopath convicted felon? Not on my watch buddy.
The real punishment is continuing to prop up a broken system that fails the people, only to keep out one monster while letting another thrive.
If you truly want to prevent the rise of a psychopath, start by dismantling the structures that allow them to exist in the first place. Ignoring the rot at the core will only bring more destruction in the long run.
Accepting and voting for the Duopoly you seem to worship so much? Not on my watch, buddy.
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