• ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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      12 days ago

      That’s the thing that’s hard to determine: if he gave up because of Lieberman or if Lieberman was the cover for backing off.

      I didn’t think so at the time, but given the track record and actions of the party since then? I kinda do feel Obama wasn’t so all-in for it.

      • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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        12 days ago

        No, it was pretty clear. And if it was a cover then it was the party telling Obama he couldn’t have it. He’d never have proposed it if he didn’t want it on the table.