Can we all agree that rape is worse than offending people?

  • Amoxtli@thelemmy.club
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    5 months ago

    Europe is very Marxist, and the EU governments is very careful to not allow too much criticism of marginalized groups. Their soft justice system does not work with all cultures. To keep liberal society liberal, they feel they need to censor things to prevent a clash of cultures inside their own country. This is very common in a country like the UK where the perpetrator is treated like the victim and the victim the perpetrator with no evidence whatsoever to back up their conclusion. Minorities are a “protected class” that get preferential treatment. In the case of Germany, it is a culture of guilt due to the history of Nazism.

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    5 months ago

    Yes, we do agree on that.

    The assailants were minors and thus mostly got probation sentences. That’s due to German law. This was criticized widely.

    Are you allowed to find out the mobile number of the perpetrators and harass them on WhatsApp? Well, not under German law. Two wrongs don’t make a right and so on. It’s true that she did not get the leniency the assailants got, because she is not a minor (and had been caught stealing before). She was sentenced to a weekend in jail. That is 3 days.

    Are both cases comparable and allow us to draw larger conclusions from the differences in their sentencing? I don’t think so. They are completely different and only linked by the victim of the latter being a perpetrator of the first.

    It does make for a sensational headline, though!

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        5 months ago

        I never said harassment was worse. In the first sentence I agree with OP’s statement.

        However, the reason most of the assailants are not in jail is not because their crime wasn’t worse, it’s because they are minors. The 19 year-old assailant got 2,5 years jail-time and no probation. The others got between 0,5 and 2 years on probation, which is arguably worse than 3 days in jail.

        So, no the headline is not accurate.

        Edit: I just reread your post… you think the victim got jail time over harassing her assailants?! That’s what these rage-bait headlines do. It’s not about what actually happened. It’s about triggering the preconceptions of the consumers and pushing them farther into the extremes.

        • casey is remote@noauthority.social
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          @janonymous The headline is accurate. Remember, this is what it says:

          > GERMANY: Woman Convicted Of “Offending” Migrant Gang Rapists Receives Longer Prison Sentence Than The Rapists - The Publica

          What makes it accurate is whether or not it is true, whether or not it says what you want it to say. So long as the woman got a longer prison sentence than the rapists, which she did, than it is accurate.

          • janonymous@lemmy.world
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            5 months ago

            But she did not? She got 3 days, while the 19-year-old assailant got 2,5 years. I get the feeling you don’t read what I’m writing so this is my last response.

            • BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com
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              5 months ago

              He’s not, he’s just trying to assert himself as right. I’m guessing he’s barely skimming your articles. He does that.

              Typical reactionary conservative