• WrenFeathers@lemmy.worldM
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      23 days ago

      No one said you’re voting for him, but not voting against him is absolutely enabling him while simultaneously saying that you’re completely fine with either outcome.

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      23 days ago

      “The only thing necessary for evil to triumph in the world is that good men do nothing.” But hey, I’m sure those good men felt the same way you do.

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        23 days ago

        That quote is such a funny thing. My mom once quoted it to me as a reason to support the Iraq War. I didn’t even know how to respond to that because it was so completely backwards. The way I saw it, the invasion of Iraq was evil triumphing because good people did nothing to stop it.

        That’s how I feel about you saying it to me now. Evil is triumphing in Gaza precisely because people aren’t willing to take a stand on it.

        • JonsJava@lemmy.worldM
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          23 days ago

          I am doing something. I’m voting for the issues at my doorstep. I have a gay child, and a non-binary child. I have another that is autistic.

          If Trump wins, there’s a non-zero chance that my children will be in danger.

          I’m also an advocate for the homeless (don’t correct me. I used to be homeless, and we hate “unhoused”),.

          I advocate for foster youth, a sector no politician cares about.

          All you do is complain about one issue. There’s scores of issues. Jill Stein isn’t happening. Vote in reality, and for reproductive rights, non-cis rights, rights for the homeless, and for someone that will actually win.

          I won’t say a vote for Jill is a vote for Trump.

          A vote for Jill is the same as not voting. I tell people that didn’t vote “you don’t vote, you don’t have a right to bitch”

          • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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            23 days ago

            I respect your decision. But I’m not going to do the same. If Palestinians can be sacrificed today, I can be sacrificed tomorrow. If a line cannot be drawn somewhere, then we will all be fucked, and this is where I have drawn mine.

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              23 days ago

              That’s your decision. In my opinion, it means your not voting. Your line helps nobody.

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                23 days ago

                We will be stuck voting for the lesser evil until the end of time unless things change, and they cannot be changed if we don’t try to change them.

                I’ve explained myself in many different ways in this thread, but honestly, that’s what it comes down to.

                I don’t live in a swing state regardless.

        • Lauchs@lemmy.worldOP
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          23 days ago

          Ahhh yes, the oh so helpful stand of not voting for a party that could win.

          Like, you do understand that Harris likely means fewer dead Palestinians than trump, yes? This isn’t complicated.

          • InTheNameOfScheddi@lemmy.world
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            23 days ago

            Harris is vice president. There’s a genocide ongoing under her and Biden’s approval. End of the story. She has also repeatedly expressed her lack of will to change the current situation.

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              Ahhh yes, as VP she shouls strike out and create her own foreign policy while under another administration!

              The irony is I don’t imagine you understand how ridiculously silly that statement was.

              Though I’m curious how helping trump will somehow help the Palestineans.

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            23 days ago

            I don’t believe in the ideology of lesser evilism. The refusal to hold politicians to any sort of standard whatsoever is a part of why we’re in this situation in the first place.

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              I don’t believe in the ideology of lesser evilism

              That’s a very easy view to hold when you aren’t one of the Palestinians who will die because of people like you making the same choice.

              Small comfort to the people whom you pretend to care about.

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                Do you think the Palestinians in Gaza believe in applying lesser-evilism to the US election? I think it’s the opposite, it’s a very easy view to hold when the people dying under the lesser evil are kept safely out of sight and out of mind. It’s much harder to cradle a dead child in your arms and say, “Well, it could be worse.”

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                  I imagine they’d like fewer bombs as opposed to more bombs, yes.

                  The best would be zero bombs but nothing you are doing is getting them anywhere closer to that.

                  But you are, through your choice, helping there be more bombs and more dead.

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                    Gazans do not support the people whose bombs are dropping on them right now, no.

                    I am not helping there be more bombs and more dead.

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          23 days ago

          Does everyone see how this person offers nothing but contrarian nonsense disguised as ethics lessons?

          Please call them out and move on. Don’t waste time on this.

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      I was going to have a witty exchange with you and have an example of what you’re doing, but frankly I’m tired.

      I’m tired of everything about you people.

      So, I’m just going to block you.

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      Apparently not voting for the Diet Fascist party means you automatically voted for the Fascist party. The mental gymnastics of these election meme spammers are wild to behold.

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        23 days ago

        Remember, voting is not the same as support. But also, voting third party is supporting Trump.