• gcheliotis@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Welp, regardless of the very real issues in these countries, this is exactly the kind of rhetoric that precedes an invasion, as it did when Putin started publicly questioning Ukraine’s status as a country. This helps cement my assessment that Israel is going to go for a larger land grab with the pretext of building a buffer zone for the protection of its citizens.

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      2 months ago

      Israel be going down down to nazi town really quick. You know what they say, you either die a hero…

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        2 months ago

        still going? i thought they made it when they started spouting blood and soil, 14 words, “Gaza animals”, etc…

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        2 months ago

        I dont know when they were a hero. The IDF was designated terrorist organization from the start.

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    2 months ago

    He’s technically correct according to some schools of international politics.

    But he’s saying this to casually connect Iran to a declaration of war on Israel. In all that blab he casually infers Hezbollah is an Iranian military unit and it declared war on October 8th. Which creates the question of a casus belli against Iran.

    This is a propaganda technique where stuff like this is mentioned in passing by a bunch of different people. Our full attention is on the idea that he’s delegitimizing the surrounding countries. But that other bit slips past and if we hear something over and over without questioning it we can actually internalize it.

    So that’s kind of scary to think about.

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    2 months ago

    They’re not going to stop land grabbing…

    As long as they think America has their back. They’ll keep going.

    And Biden has spent over 50 years saying he’ll always support them no matter what.

    That geriatric old fuck needs out of office now. We can’t wait for January and he’s clearly lost all his marbles or he’d be the candidate.

    There is real life shit going on and Biden has shown time and time again. He’s just not capable of handling it

    • heartbreaker@lemmy.worldOP
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      2 months ago

      I mean it is the same with Putin, saying Ukraine is not a real country, he is not going to stop at Ukraine. Something similar might happen in Armenia too, things are becoming ugly.

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        2 months ago

        Biden is stuck with what life was like 70 years ago. Russia was the bad guys then so he treats them as the bad guys now at least.

        But he’s gone on record saying his support of Israel is due to a promise he made his dad when he was six years old.

        He’s just flat out not looking at things logically, it’s a joke that we’re still pretending he’s capable of running the country when he’s obviously not

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          I am honestly not sure if it is Biden’s decision after I saw how cooked his brains were. More likely he just read whatever his party/vice president decided.

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    2 months ago

    Does Israel really have a monopoly on power? Don’t they have huge numbers of settler militia types out there attacking Palestinians and driving them from their lands?

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      It is the US that has the military power. Israel has already tried going into Lebanon before and failed, so I think if they do it they must be pretty confident that America will come to their aid.

    • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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      As I understand it, some of the settlers have a little military training, but mostly they are as you would expect, very uneducated poor people from very remote places who don’t know anything else, and that’s on both sides of the borders. Too bad Israel has a far-right government in charge that won’t do anything to stop these illegal settlements. I hope they get thrown out in the next election.

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        2 months ago

        you forgot the part where they have IDF assistance and protection when they kill Palestinians…

        • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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          ?

          Too bad Israel has a far-right government in charge that won’t do anything to stop these illegal settlements. I hope they get thrown out in the next election.

          There is zero hope the far right leadership gets voted out in any of the territory at issue except Israel, so that’s worth nurturing, not smothering in its crib.

          Under Trump the US for the first time ever declared many of the settlements LEGAL. Just another of the ways Trump contradicted long-standing foreign policy.

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            US supports Israel to a ridiculous deglee, rest of the world say they’re a war crime. Only two countries in the UN voted to make food not a human right, guess which.

            • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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              I don’t find it ridiculous at all to prevent a fledgling democracy, the only one for a thousand miles in any direction, and our ally, from being overrun by radical pan-Islamism, which is antithetical to human and civil rights, and an ideology that needs to be left in the trash heap of history. Literally has no place in modern society. In fact, I find the future of the world’s democracies to be closely tied to the good fortune of all mankind

              Check the signatories to South Africa’s complaint to the UN. With the exception of South Africa and Ireland, every one of them is a far right theocracy with either a dictator or monarchy in charge, zero recognition for basic human rights. Check the complaint: filled of circular reasoning and citations to unsourced Al Jazeera articles. See if they can prove up their claims when the evidentiary trial take place. Got a whole long list of unverified allegations from Qatari state run media and practically nothing else.

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    I think US oil interests might have a thing or two to say about declaring Iraq not a country.

    The US could be in a leopards ate my face situation if Israel pursues that line of thought into taking destructive military actions in Iraq.

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      I think US oil interests might have a thing or two to say about declaring Iraq not a country.

      More specifically, the US interest in the Suez Canal. This critical piece of intercontinental infrastructure must be secured in order to efficiently transport material within the Mediterranean Ocean and out to the Atlantic. Also a BFD if you’re moving military hardware through the region (like aircraft carriers).

      Israel is a gun pointed at the neighboring states, intended to keep them in line. But if that gun keeps going off randomly, it no longer serves as a meaningful deterrent.

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    2 months ago

    Like Putin sais about soviet countries!? good to know israel is not the bad guy s/