• Furbag@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Like seriously, I’m tired of whining on the internet about this shit. Where can I go to learn about joining a protest? It’s better that doing fuck all by tut-tutting the establishment hellbent on fucking us over while they count their money.

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      A few more peaceful protests is sure to fix things in a giffie!

      💩💯💯

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    Politician attacks establishment when the establishment doesn’t prosecute her political opposition to the extent she wants.

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      Local man shocked that when criminals are politicians, their political opponents want them prosecuted for their crimes, especially when the crime involves overthrowing democracy.

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldOP
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    The statement:

    The Supreme Court has become consumed by a corruption crisis beyond its control.

    Today’s ruling represents an assault on American democracy. It is up to Congress to defend our nation from this authoritarian capture.

    I intend on filing articles of impeachment upon our return.

    This is what leadership is, what voters want, and what wins elections.

    Doesn’t matter if it works, it’s trying and highlighting that issues can be fixed. We might not succeed the first time, but we’ll keep fucking trying till we do.

    Put the votes on record and show voters where people stand.

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      That’s the thing though, with the Republicans in charge there will NEVER be a vote on this. They won’t allow it.

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        Yeah. But it’s provocative, it gets the people going.

        That translates to more voters and more small donors.

        Two things that are kind of important 4 months before a general election.

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      And yet, she’ll never win a presidential election because she’s too polarizing. There’s literally no other way to win here if somebody else steps in. Sad that people try to do good in their job as a public representative for their people, and just fucking can’t.

      Edit to say: don’t just take my word for it. Ask Bernie Sanders. Did he win the presidency at some point? I just must have…,…

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        She’s not polarising. The oligarchy controlled media that constantly paint her as some kind of radical are polarising.

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            Have you seen what they say about Joe Biden?

            They’d call trump Joseph Stalin if there was a D by his name.

            It literally doesn’t matter how progressive a candidate we run, because they’ll say the same shit about anyone.

            Moderates try to defend and talk about how conservative they really are. Alienating their voters. AOC would fucking own that shit and explain how it helps everyone.

            What we’re doing isn’t working. And Biden himself keeps saying he’s powerless as president, so why not fucking try what worked for literal decades and there was no rational reason we ever stopped?

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        And yet, she’ll never win a presidential election because she’s too polarizing

        Imagine saying that after Obama flipped a bunch of red states and brought in a shit ton of down ballot races.

        AOC is polarizing, but not as much as Obama and it’s easier the second time around.

        Hell, no body even really mentioned Biden being Catholic in 1988. You should have seen the shit they said about JFK. And similar time-frames passed between.

        And strictly police wise, the country is a lot more open to progressive policy than in 08, and again, everyone said Obama was too “polarizing” right up till election results.

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          There be the facts, friend. It’s just how it works right now. Any time you figure out a better system you can get implemented, I’m all ears.

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            There be the facts, friend. It’s just how it works right now

            What?

            Literally what’s how what works?

            Any time you figure out a better system you can get implemented, I’m all ears.

            Fair and open primaries, mate.

            I’ve been saying it since NH had their delegates stolen.

            Well, this cycle, almost a decade now in total. This ain’t exactly a new problem, and it’s not like no one can think of a solution.

            It’s just not easy beating corporate money in primaries until enough Dem voters demand the party sets higher standards. And most people only pay atteyonce every 4 years, then they’re too exhausted to care about politics.

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        Imagine having a candidate that got more popular after speaking in public…

        We literally haven’t even passed that low of a bar in over a decade. I don’t understand what’s happened to people.

        People as a whole are more politically aware than I’ve ever seen, but we’re just wasting it.

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          We have to undo decades of policy enacted the much longer politically aware and active owner class. They’ve had a head start on us, so it’s going to take tome to dismantle the political machinery they’ve created while minimizing harm done to the rest of us.

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            We actually don’t.

            A single progressive president means they get to name the DNC chair and a bunch of voting positions.

            It’s literally that easy to take over the party.

            Obama just didn’t do it because he didn’t need the party after they turned on him for opposing Hillary.

            If he’d have rebuilt it, we’d have a functional progressive party planning decades ahead already. And trump would still just be that guy from the Mac Miller song. The SC would be a progressive majority. The situation and Gaza wouldn’t have turned into an open genocide, COVID would have been handled appropriately.

            It’s not some insurmountable task, but it gets harder and harder every cycle.

            By all rights we should have had protests in the streets calling for Biden and the DNC leadership to step down for stealing NH’s delagets. But not enough people had crossed their personal lines by then.

            If we’d have had the fight then, we’d have had a full primary almost to figure shit out.

            But we didn’t.

            Until we finally do, shit won’t change.

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                We should have learned that confidence is the one thing you can’t fake. A candidate can be confident for illogical reasons, but that’s still more convincing than being right but not being confident. It creates this weird effect where once people get too smart, they become less decisive and people perceive that as less confident.

                The stereotypical nerd.

                Gore probably would have been a top 10 president. But he couldn’t sell himself to voters just a little more. And if memory recalls, he technically didn’t even have to concede. Like, if he had waited I believe the recounts were actively happening. He didn’t even let it run down to the final vote.

                But I think its important to note not a single Dem Senator challenged it either which would have been even better than Gore challenging it

                Bernie would have most likely, but he wasn’t in yet. Biden could have done it, but he didn’t, same with most of the current Dem leadership.

                So Gore should have planted his feet, and voters should have gotten behind, probably would have. But the party didn’t have Gore’s back either. And Gore wasn’t confident enough to try it without the party.

                It’s crazy how shit comes so close and has such widespread consequences. Just one Dem senator back then dragging it out till a final count would have done it.

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    Well congresswoman, there still is a republican majority so you’re going to have to wait for your chance. In addition, balance of powers and all that.

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      If you don’t try, you’ll never succeed.

      There’s no such thing as wasted political capital these days, shit like this energizes the base, and this is probably the biggest thing to help Biden (or whoever the candidate is) all year.

      trumpers are already jacked up on Mountain Dew, they can’t vote any harder then they already are and they’re not gonna vote any less. We need the focus on motivating Dem voters.

      And win or lose, this does that.

      Show voters that with X amount more votes. We can actually fix something. It’s a few months before the election, this is literally perfect timing.

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        Sorry, but she can’t try. The floor is controlled by Republicans and they will not let her proceed.

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          Right…

          Which will highlight to the country that a Republican House matters right before an election is coming up and donations will make a huge difference in races…

          What dem voters want is to know that their votes matter. And this shows them what happens because of the 2022 midterms and will lead to increased turnout in 2024.

          It’s not “all or nothing”. To beat fascism we need to never stop fighting even when the odds are astronomically against suceeding.

          It’s not even politics at this point, it’s basic psychology. We need to give voters what they want, and right now Dem voters want to fight fascism.

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              Welcome to America

              We can sit around and talk about how the average voter should do better on their own out of a sense of civic duty…

              Or we can do what we know will motivate them.

              Which do you think is more productive?

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                  Nice.

                  So we agreed:

                  Or we can do what we know will motivate them

                  Which is “performative” stuff like this that won’t succeed, but will energize voters leading to more dems in office across the board.

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    “Hey everyone, things are NOT going our way in the Supreme Court, and we need to change everything about our judicial, political, and constitutional system!” - Sincerely, Democrats.