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    Anyone trying to spin this positively is delusional. This was a very, very damning performance by Biden. It doesn’t matter what Trump said or didn’t say. Dems are saying it was bad, donors are saying it, even onlookers from abroad.

    Dems sticking with an octogenarian was dumb. It’s like lessons never learned. They fight the progressive’s to defend the status quo. Scaring people about democracy being on the line may not cut it, even though it’s absolutely true. People are already tired and struggling. It helps to have some energy at the top of your ticket.

    You can downvote, but we will all be wringing our hands for the next five months.

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        Did you think Trump could actually win back in 2016? I get what you’re saying, but it’s not me you have to worry about. It’s the voters who put him in office back in 2016, and the ones who still might again. Democracy being on the line may not be the best way to win voters or energize a base. The youth already feel betrayed. And dems suck at messaging.

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          I did not think Trump could win in 2016. I actually agree with all your points. I’m just a little baffled myself from this nonsense.

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            I don’t always whip out the Bible to prove a point but all these like hateful so-called Christians who are rising up to injure their fellow man make me think of this line:

            2nd Thessalonians 2:11-12:

            And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

            Regardless of whether you believe in the Bible or anything like that, the fact that this scenario has been spoken about in the past indicates that it is a known sociological fallacy in human beings, that we as a group have a tendency to engage in hateful self-destructive behaviors while under a strong delusion that we are doing the right thing.

            I just wish people could see that when you have 100 million Cassandras screaming at you that Rome is about to go down in flames that somebody who has access to the fire extinguisher could hear them and break the glass.

            (Choosing the word Cassandra because Cassandra was a seer who was cursed so that nobody would believe her prophetic visions, and so she was bound to helplessly watch over and over again is horrible things happened)

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        Didn’t change mine, but I’m the opposite of a low information voter, and just based on p2025 I’d vote for Weekend at Biden’s.

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      He’s going to need to serve his prison sentence so this is a dangerous, crazy, moot point. They got him on State charges for what Cohen did and he ain’t gonna sing so time for Mr. Big to pay his debt to society, something he hopefully can’t escape again despite his moral and neurological bankruptcy

      Tired of everyone dancing around this “small” problem. He has to be punished and it was stupid of society to let it get this bad. Fucking age limits, no older than 70 and mental competency tests that have teeth. Tax returns must be produced. Courts have enforced timelines for grave politico-legal issues. Emoluments safeguards enforced vigorously. No more profiting off using your own venues.

      We have much to learn and improve on, Trump has exposed it all

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        While that would be nice the right thing, it’s highly unlikely to happen. The very fact that he is even running and that he has full control over his party says so.